is the tiling industry becoming saturated?

[Dan]

Are there really that many more tilers though? I mean, apparently the tile market is still growing, so are the growing rates of tilers about the same? I'd say there could be more tile fixing companies now, but I think if a tiling job needed to be done a few years back then it still would have been done, it just would have been a mate of a mate who's done a bit.

Well why can't that mate do a course, learn how to do it right, and put himself out there at a price to the nation?

And why shouldn't there be some healthy competition? Us homeowners need some benefits these days.

And I haven't heard one sh** hot tiler I know complain about their work loads going down one bit. In fact, they're making more money as 'more expensive' tiles are being imported and fixed more these days it seems.

Though it's just my opinion.

 

[Fekin]

I can vouch for what LM's saying though.

Im in Preston and have been out to a lot of estimates over the last 9 months, given what I thought was quite a low price to start with and have been told by the customer that I was rather expensive.
One job I measured up a few weeks ago, I gave what I'd class as a silly low price as I'd had a big up coming job get delayed on me and basically knew if I didn't get this other job I'd have nothing on for a week, so to just keep working I quoted £16 psqm "was a big bathroom" plus mats, free tile removal too, only to be told I was way way too expensive :lol:

It all depends on the contacts you have though as to what work comes your way too.

On the other hand, I quoted one job up, basic £30 psqm for a very easy porcelain floor and got the job there and then.

You will always find customers just wanting cheap cheap prices though.

 

[bootsmckiber]

,I've found that over the last few years all the home repair shows on t.v.have made tiling look like any Joe can do it,People will phone around and go with a lower bid but like the saying goes,"you get what you pay for"I only adjust my prices for friends or when there's mega-footage involved,I've found over the years that people who try and nickle and dime you over your setting price aren't worth the bother because money is an issue to them not quality,once you get some good gigs under your belt,and a good rep around the supply store's you'll find the people who are willing to pay top buck for a good job,or should I say they'll find you,take lot's of pictures,know your products well and twitch your head two or three times at the end of every sentence when talking to a client,you'll do fine,good luck.
Mike

 

[Ultimate Tiling]

The course I was on had 12 people on it but even before anybody spoke you could rule 3/4 out of a tiling career by looking at them.
As the course went on maybe 3 or 4 found tiling quite easy to pick up the rest struggled to keep up.
Then the business side, not everybody is cut out for running their own business and keeping work coming in.
Still if every one on the course does his own, family and friends jobs thats a few jobs out of the system.
Quality I would have thought should pull people through but this quality doesnt have to be only got from doing 30 years tiling, some new tilers must produce some top class work if they have the knoledge and skill to produce it.

 

[lotar]

You can't learn anything on a short course, ( you may manage a kitchen ) these centres are killing our trade , they should be raided by the fraud squad.

Craig

 

[pjtiler]

You can't learn anything on a short course, ( you may manage a kitchen ) these centres are killing our trade , they should be raided by the fraud squad.

Craig

you cant say things like that round here mate
even if your correct

red card

 

[kilty55]

i actually learned as much as i could on my short course,guys who are genuinly willing to work hard at changing career and have the skills to develop as tilers over a period of time will infact be good news for the trade,fair play to anyone whos willing to bin a career,,re train and risk a lot of security to go and follow what they want out life,no one should be shot down for trying to better themselves.i agree though definately out all the people coming through training centres no way will they all be tilers so although there may be a large amount being trained i doubt very much if they are saturating the market.

 

[pjtiler]

the ones who dont make it as a tiler could always start there own tiling school
now there an idea

 

[kilty55]

heehee i like the subtle digs popping up about tiling schools,might make good reading that one of the reasons i decided to do my course was after using a fully qualified tiler to do my bathroom,not a terrible job but lets just say a bit of a half hearted effort and was charged an extremely large amount of money for it as well.just because someone is qualified and has more knowledge doesnt neccesarily mean they apply it on the job.

 

[Grace'sDad]

caus of most of the muppets around preston charging naff all

Oh Oh. I've been found out!!! :lol: (sorry)

 

[LM Ceramics]

mark you make me laugh :lol: lol

 

[Spud]

every one has to start somewhere why ban courses that are giving good advice and training you may lose one job to a new bloke because he has under cut you but you can bet your bottom dollar he wont do it twice once he has realised just how hard your money is earned in the tiling trade we need a tougher period to get rid of some of the dead wood in the industry if its any comfort from what i am seeing alot of the polish guys are returning home due to unfavourable exchange rates and better job prospects at home

 

[tkm18]

every one has to start somewhere why ban courses that are giving good advice and training you may lose one job to a new bloke because he has under cut you but you can bet your bottom dollar he wont do it twice once he has realised just how hard your money is earned in the tiling trade we need a tougher period to get rid of some of the dead wood in the industry if its any comfort from what i am seeing alot of the polish guys are returning home due to unfavourable exchange rates and better job prospects at home

Is there that much of a differece between tilers form other countrys flooding the market and 2 week coursers flooding the market??

They are both doing the exact same thing in my opinion. :ninja:

 

[White Room]

every one has to start somewhere why ban courses that are giving good advice and training you may lose one job to a new bloke because he has under cut you but you can bet your bottom dollar he wont do it twice once he has realised just how hard your money is earned in the tiling trade we need a tougher period to get rid of some of the dead wood in the industry if its any comfort from what i am seeing alot of the polish guys are returning home due to unfavourable exchange rates and better job prospects at home

I have heard the same about polish guys, It could be were,ll be going there for work.

 

[Uttiley]

If you want to make up to £45,000 grand a year as a wall and floor tiler like the advert says in the national press it is quite simple just start a tiling course company.

Then if you want to make even more money you can start an electricians course company and so on and so on it could turn out to be quite lucrative no doubt.