Is this good or bad tiling

[xxglasglowxx]

We are having new bathrooms installed in our Victorian property. One bathroom is finished but still needs cracks filled/painted as you will see in photos. We are just feeling totally underwhelmed with the finish of the tiling. We are no experts though so would appreciate any thoughts or feedback on the tiling job...thanks in advance.

 

[Dave]

Morning, i will agree the tile trims should be neater and also the internal corners should be siliconed and not grouted , the rest is perfectly passable judging by the pics.

 

[Tony_C]

Trims are poorly finished, internals needs siliconed (especially the one in the first picture as that looks like your shower cubicle internal corner) and a bad wrap at the corner. Not the worst but not the best. I know a great tiler from Glasgow

Do you have any images of the tiles meeting the shower tray? Just to make sure that area has been sealed

 

[Boggs]

I agree it’s not the neatest job and set out could have been better but it is fairly easily salvageable.
You need highlight the issues with your installers.

 

[xxglasglowxx]

Thanks for replying. It’s so helpful, given our lack of knowledge! You have basically confirmed what we thought. Tiling is mostly fine, just the finish is quite poor. We spoke to him and he has tried to sort things but in my view has made them worse. Has anyone seen this technique used at the corner of the shower tray....
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this tile is also protruding quite a lot now....is that fixable?

 

[Dave1033]

That’s shocking.. did you pay for that?

 

[xxglasglowxx]

That’s shocking.. did you pay for that?

We have paid a bit but not all. We have a meeting tonight with the kitchen/bathroom shop to see what the next step is. We can’t continue with this guy and we still have the main family bathroom to do!

 

[Dave1033]

I would politely tell him his services are no longer required.. but that’s me, I wouldn’t be ok with the standard you have shown

either he puts it right as part of what you have paid him, or he walks from the job and you take the hit, or try and get your money back (last one will probably be the hardest)

 

[xxglasglowxx]

I would politely tell him his services are no longer required.. but that’s me, I wouldn’t be ok with the standard you have shown

either he puts it right as part of what you have paid him, or he walks from the job and you take the hit, or try and get your money back (last one will probably be the hardest)

He has now been removed from the job. Thanks for all the advise.

 

[Tile kid]

Silocone down the corners, new trims, replace cracked tile next to the rad, bit of a clean and your good to go.

In my opinion it's not that bad, just compare it to the other bad jobs what are on here.

 

[Allen Tiling]

Looks pretty poor to me maybe been rushed.?

 

[xxglasglowxx]

Should the floor have been levelled before putting the underfloor heating and tiles on?one of the feet of the vanity until doesn’t sit on the floor and the reason given was the floor wasn’tflat. He sanded one side of the new vanity so one side touches the floor but the other still doesn’t.
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Looks pretty poor to me maybe been rushed.?

He was running a few dats behind the schedule he’d set. Didn’t make any difference to us how long the job took...I told him that too. It was far more important to me that things were done properly....no matter how long it took.

 

[Bathfix Bob]

If the floor needed leveling he should have done it before he tiled it, if he's sanded the feet of the vanity unit he must protect the raw edge or everytime you mop the floor it will swell the chipboard.

 

[xxglasglowxx]

Can tiles be lifted (and underfloor heating) or would we be mad to go down that route now?

 

[Tony_C]

If they haven't leveled over the ufh then lifting the tiles would be a no go without damaging the ufh. They should foot the bill for that

 

[Dave1033]

Can tiles be lifted (and underfloor heating) or would we be mad to go down that route now?

Before tiling into anything there are 4 boxes that need ticking for the substrate..
1. Surface should be dry
2. Surface should be clean
3. Surface needs to be structurally sound
4. Surface needs to be flat
If any one of these is not ticked off then no tiling should be done.. and no manufacturer will guarantee their products if they Aren’t

your tiler should have ensured the floor was flat, dry, sound and clean before he started..

He should be putting this right out of his own pocket

 

[Time's Ran Out]

I think it’s a 1 man job!
He’s no Tiler and possibly no bathroom fitter if he’s left it in that state.
I’d be making sure the bathroom company put everything right before the next room is bodged!
Sanding the base of a brand new unit to make it sit on the uneven tiled floor is the no 1 bodge so far . Last time I came across a similar case the ‘bathroom fitter’ cut chunks out of the backs of 2no £2000.00 base units to fit his pipe work - and I’am being polite!

 

[Dave1033]

I think it’s a 1 man job!
He’s no Tiler and possibly no bathroom fitter if he’s left it in that state.
I’d be making sure the bathroom company put everything right before the next room is bodged!
Sanding the base of a brand new unit to make it sit on the uneven tiled floor is the no 1 bodge so far . Last time I came across a similar case the ‘bathroom fitter’ cut chunks out of the backs of 2no £2000.00 base units to fit his pipe work - and I’am being polite!

It’s scary that these guys are out there and make a living with work like this..
The bathroom/finance companies don’t care and go with whomever is cheapest or will work for peanuts..
you can get away with cutting slight corners with plumbing or joinery when it’s not seen but tiling should be done by a vetted professional and I would always advise paying more once you’re satisfied of their qualifications and standards..
This guy is a chancer who will go from job to job and every now and then someone will pull him up.. and he will just move on

crying shame

 

[xxglasglowxx]

Thanks for all the advise. It has genuinely helped so much. We are going to try and insist the shop lift the floor, level it, re do UFH and tile. We will then just try and sort the other bits ourselves....would a tiler be able to remove and redo the grout/Silicon in the shower?

Could anyone also explain why they have put the shower tray so high....it seems quite dated to me. I thought the more modern ones are quite low to the ground? I’ve attached pics to show the height...

 

[Boggs]

Normally with shower trays installed with the riser kits (plastic legs) and standard 90mm wastes, top of tray will be around 130mm to the top but to get this the floor would need to be level.
When tiling a bathroom floor I tend to install trays to existing floor then build up the rest of the floor around the tray as this reduces the overall height by a further 20mm +.

 

[xxglasglowxx]

Thank you...that bathroom looks so beautifully installed! So neat and what we had hoped to get. Would you say our shower tray looks very high?

 

[Boggs]

Looking at the pictures I would say it’s just been raised to meet the top of the skirting, also existing waste height might be a factor especially in older properties with external soil stacks.
But I am not defending the fitter, it is a badly finished bathroom and it probably could have been lowered fairly easily even if it involved a small extra cost.

 

[BigReno]

I agree it’s not the neatest job and set out could have been better but it is fairly easily salvageable.
You need highlight the issues with your installers.

How would the poorly installed trims be salvaged?

 

[xxglasglowxx]

Looking at the pictures I would say it’s just been raised to meet the top of the skirting, also existing waste height might be a factor especially in older properties with external soil stacks.
But I am not defending the fitter, it is a badly finished bathroom and it probably could have been lowered fairly easily even if it involved a small extra cost.

I took a picture whilst he was laying the tiles....doesn’t seem to be any screed layed. Would you agree?

 

[Boggs]

How would the poorly installed trims be salvaged?

Well the trims themselves can’t be, but the job as a whole could be.
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I took a picture whilst he was laying the tiles....doesn’t seem to be any screed layed. Would you agree?

He hasn’t used a self levelling compound over the cables, this isn’t required as standard but I find to be a better option.

 

[xxglasglowxx]

Well the trims themselves can’t be, but the job as a whole could be.

I think I am going to get them to put cornice tiles instead of the trims. They have now agreed to lift the floor, lay screed, new UFH and re tile. Still to fight about the shaved vanity!

 

[Tony_C]

Get them to patch the plywood also

 

[xxglasglowxx]

Well the trims themselves can’t be, but the job as a whole could be.
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He hasn’t used a self levelling compound over the cables, this isn’t required as standard but I find to be a better option.

I think it’s a definite requirement for our old/uneven floor.

 

[Boggs]

Get them to patch the plywood also

Aargh! Hadn’t noticed that.

 

[xxglasglowxx]

We have now given them until tmw until we engage solicitors. Has anyone had a successful outcome in a similar situation? Any thoughts/advise appreciated. Thanks.

 

[widler]

The tiling doesn’t look too bad, but his prep is terrible and his finishing could of worked wonders to the eye.
The trims can be sorted by taking all the top course off.
Usually floors we get flat as level sometimes can’t be achieved due to certain factors.
Does it run down to the door, if you level it, especially with EUFH ,could you have a few inch step at the threshold , sometimes a big step looks awful and a few mm gap under a unit looks better.
Your property is probably over a hundred years old, and a level was ‘rack of the eye’ in those days 🙂
Saying all that, it’s not a brilliant job