Is this good or bad tiling

[Dave1033]

Can tiles be lifted (and underfloor heating) or would we be mad to go down that route now?

Before tiling into anything there are 4 boxes that need ticking for the substrate..
1. Surface should be dry
2. Surface should be clean
3. Surface needs to be structurally sound
4. Surface needs to be flat
If any one of these is not ticked off then no tiling should be done.. and no manufacturer will guarantee their products if they Aren’t

your tiler should have ensured the floor was flat, dry, sound and clean before he started..

He should be putting this right out of his own pocket

 

[Time's Ran Out]

I think it’s a 1 man job!
He’s no Tiler and possibly no bathroom fitter if he’s left it in that state.
I’d be making sure the bathroom company put everything right before the next room is bodged!
Sanding the base of a brand new unit to make it sit on the uneven tiled floor is the no 1 bodge so far . Last time I came across a similar case the ‘bathroom fitter’ cut chunks out of the backs of 2no £2000.00 base units to fit his pipe work - and I’am being polite!

 

[Dave1033]

I think it’s a 1 man job!
He’s no Tiler and possibly no bathroom fitter if he’s left it in that state.
I’d be making sure the bathroom company put everything right before the next room is bodged!
Sanding the base of a brand new unit to make it sit on the uneven tiled floor is the no 1 bodge so far . Last time I came across a similar case the ‘bathroom fitter’ cut chunks out of the backs of 2no £2000.00 base units to fit his pipe work - and I’am being polite!

It’s scary that these guys are out there and make a living with work like this..
The bathroom/finance companies don’t care and go with whomever is cheapest or will work for peanuts..
you can get away with cutting slight corners with plumbing or joinery when it’s not seen but tiling should be done by a vetted professional and I would always advise paying more once you’re satisfied of their qualifications and standards..
This guy is a chancer who will go from job to job and every now and then someone will pull him up.. and he will just move on

crying shame

 

[xxglasglowxx]

Thanks for all the advise. It has genuinely helped so much. We are going to try and insist the shop lift the floor, level it, re do UFH and tile. We will then just try and sort the other bits ourselves....would a tiler be able to remove and redo the grout/Silicon in the shower?

Could anyone also explain why they have put the shower tray so high....it seems quite dated to me. I thought the more modern ones are quite low to the ground? I’ve attached pics to show the height...

 

[Boggs]

Normally with shower trays installed with the riser kits (plastic legs) and standard 90mm wastes, top of tray will be around 130mm to the top but to get this the floor would need to be level.
When tiling a bathroom floor I tend to install trays to existing floor then build up the rest of the floor around the tray as this reduces the overall height by a further 20mm +.

 

[xxglasglowxx]

Thank you...that bathroom looks so beautifully installed! So neat and what we had hoped to get. Would you say our shower tray looks very high?

 

[Boggs]

Looking at the pictures I would say it’s just been raised to meet the top of the skirting, also existing waste height might be a factor especially in older properties with external soil stacks.
But I am not defending the fitter, it is a badly finished bathroom and it probably could have been lowered fairly easily even if it involved a small extra cost.

 

[BigReno]

I agree it’s not the neatest job and set out could have been better but it is fairly easily salvageable.
You need highlight the issues with your installers.

How would the poorly installed trims be salvaged?

 

[xxglasglowxx]

Looking at the pictures I would say it’s just been raised to meet the top of the skirting, also existing waste height might be a factor especially in older properties with external soil stacks.
But I am not defending the fitter, it is a badly finished bathroom and it probably could have been lowered fairly easily even if it involved a small extra cost.

I took a picture whilst he was laying the tiles....doesn’t seem to be any screed layed. Would you agree?

 

[Boggs]

How would the poorly installed trims be salvaged?

Well the trims themselves can’t be, but the job as a whole could be.
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I took a picture whilst he was laying the tiles....doesn’t seem to be any screed layed. Would you agree?

He hasn’t used a self levelling compound over the cables, this isn’t required as standard but I find to be a better option.

 

[xxglasglowxx]

Well the trims themselves can’t be, but the job as a whole could be.

I think I am going to get them to put cornice tiles instead of the trims. They have now agreed to lift the floor, lay screed, new UFH and re tile. Still to fight about the shaved vanity!

 

[Tony_C]

Get them to patch the plywood also

 

[xxglasglowxx]

Well the trims themselves can’t be, but the job as a whole could be.
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He hasn’t used a self levelling compound over the cables, this isn’t required as standard but I find to be a better option.

I think it’s a definite requirement for our old/uneven floor.

 

[Boggs]

Get them to patch the plywood also

Aargh! Hadn’t noticed that.

 

[xxglasglowxx]

We have now given them until tmw until we engage solicitors. Has anyone had a successful outcome in a similar situation? Any thoughts/advise appreciated. Thanks.