job today,

[Mr Tiler]

hi well turned up at the job this morning hammer and chisel in hand ready to go nuts. turns out they havnt had the units on show removed yet so I cant start the job tmoz, also told me they want me to go straight over the old tiles. didn't feel I needed to voice my concerns as they already know and also theres a painted plywood wall also told them may have to over board the play or at least try to remove the paint and they just want me to go straight over it after scoring. so its down to them I suppose what do you think?

 

[Ajax123]

Bear in mind it's a showroom and not a customers house so longevity is much less of an issue.

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Or have I mis understood and it isn't a showroom??

 

[Mr Tiler]

no it is a showroom mate, but can it come back to bite me if it fails?

 

[Mr Tiler]

more than happy to go ahead though there is one small issue but im pretty certain I know how to deal with it

 

[Martyn Leeds]

Welcome to the real world.
Tilers depend on all the other trades before us, so expect plenty of wasted days in the future..

On topic though, I've never been involved in doing displays etc, but if Mr & Mrs Smith are shopping at the weekend and little boy Johnny is with them, and he starts pratting around climbing all over stuff, then I'm sure the store will be more than happy with the risk, to take all the blame and to foot the liability..

But I would've sorted all this out before day 1 of the job - ie, What exactly is it you want me to tile? who, what, why, where, when.
6 P's is it?

 

[Brian the Tile]

do what you know is right not good cutting corners when you are just startig off,if they insist you do it and you dont want to loose the job ,get them to sign a disclaimer saying it is bad practice and you wont have any comebacks if they fall off, up to you but its wrong

 

[Mr Tiler]

Welcome to the real world.
Tilers depend on all the other trades before us, so expect plenty of wasted days in the future..

On topic though, I've never been involved in doing displays etc, but if Mr & Mrs Smith are shopping at the weekend and little boy Johnny is with them, and he starts pratting around climbing all over stuff, then I'm sure the store will be more than happy with the risk, to take all the blame and to foot the liability..

But I would've sorted all this out before day 1 of the job - ie, What exactly is it you want me to tile? who, what, why, where, when.
6 P's is it?

thanks martyn, I suppose lack of dealing with customers got the better of me on that one mate.

 

[Ajax123]

Write yourself a checklist for each job and tick each item off as you deal with it. There will be three basic sections

pre start
installation
post install

each of which will be split into sub categories. The per start will be the biggest as you should try and agree all works to be done up front.

 

[Mr Tiler]

yeh we agreed what will be happening, seems when I sorted this out a few weeks back I was speaking to the wrong person. but the gaffa was there today im guessing he made the descisions, maybe I will have to write up an agreement with them.

 

[Time's Ran Out]

They just want this job done for nothing then you won't hear from them again!
If they had been a serious outfit the room would have been stripped and ready for you to start.
Another one who just want a show but not the quality!
IMHO - For someone with such little experience you are expecting too much and unless you have your public liability insurance sorted your putting everyone at risk!

 

[Mr Tiler]

I have my public liability john, I simply thought it was just to ensure I will be turning up. but when I was discussing with them about what was going to happen they seemed serious about tomorrow. Should I be so hasty to dismiss them?

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Good!
Then it's your choice, as your not getting paid its good practice for you!
As far as tiling on tiles are concerned you need to know what the tiles fixed are fixed too (as it could even be wallpaper for display) and what weight the tiles you are being asked to fix combined make - only then you can make a decision to stay or walk.
Cutting corners now isn't a path you should follow but without the experience to be in control of your working environment, others will 'suggest' the way they want it undertaken.

 

[Mr Tiler]

thank you for the advice john

 

[Ian]

Most tile shops use hot glue for their displays, easy to change at a later date. So long as you're not fixing 20mm thick stone, I wouldn't be overly concerned. You were right to ask the question though.

 

[Brian the Tile]

and if its a hot glue gun you are using yo only get one chance sticking them on,no time for adjustment