My bathroom project Page: 2

[Impossible]

My first time tiling is coming up and it starts with my GF's 1.7x1.8m bathroom.
The place is a c1950's maisonette where all the walls are solid (no plasterboard)
I'm taking on the bathroom as part of a refresh of the place. Previously the bathroom was fitted with a iron bath, porcelain sink and toilet. Previous decor was half tiles then top half painted with a retrofitted shower.
Here are some images, this is what im working with.
http://gallery.cowbox.net/main.php?g...g2_itemId=4748
http://gallery.cowbox.net/main.php?g...g2_itemId=4751
http://gallery.cowbox.net/main.php?g...g2_itemId=4753
http://gallery.cowbox.net/main.php?g...g2_itemId=4756
http://gallery.cowbox.net/main.php?g...g2_itemId=4759

As you can see, its the original suite with a iron bath.
Shes already bought the tiles (from B&Q....... yuk) These are plane white tiles with a ripple effect on its surface (200x250x7mm) and then a boreder with these tiles...
http://gallery.cowbox.net/main.php?g...g2_itemId=4762
More images to follow.
Any suggestions on how to embed the images instead of them being links (is this due to the site they are hosted on?)

Imp​

 

[Impossible]

hehe, running away is not an option!

The tiles came off with a bit of "love" from a blow torch.

http://www.tilersforums.com/redirec...DownloadItem&g2_itemId=4775&g2_serialNumber=2

I have a tanking kit, bought a Bal wp1 kit. If I was 9mm plasterboard would this have to be something like aquapanel or could I use normal plasterboard (due to it being cheaper) and use the tanking kit around the shower/bath area? how would these boards be attached to the wall (adhesive?)

Im really 50/50 about removing the cement, I know its going to be the best method but if it doesnt remove cleanly then im going to have to repair the wall before tiling.

really not sure which path to take.

Imp

 

[Gazzer]

Your call mate . I would give it a try to remove the old sand and cement.

 

[mz30]

I will always say that unless you are going to spend hours a day in the bath/shower then tanking is not needed (get your money back),tanking is a fairly new thing and the amount of tiler's i know(the list is very long)will not get involved with using it,why make a hard job more difficult ,for instance i tiled by bathroom about five years ago (no tanking)and i shower once a day and so does my wife and also my daughter has 3 to 4 baths a week and after all that usage, i have no damp ,no leakage and no discolouration of grout .

If people are wondering why they don't gety job's and are sitting at home the reason is they are pricing for thing's that are not needed.

Never ,ever make the job harder than it need's to be .

 

[Gazzer]

I will always say that unless you are going to spend hours a day in the bath/shower then tanking is not needed (get your money back),tanking is a fairly new thing and the amount of tiler's i know(the list is very long)will not get involved with using it,why make a hard job more difficult ,for instance i tiled by bathroom about five years ago (no tanking)and i shower once a day and so does my wife and also my daughter has 3 to 4 baths a week and after all that usage, i have no damp ,no leakage and no discolouration of grout .

If people are wondering why they don't gety job's and are sitting at home the reason is they are pricing for thing's that are not needed.

Never ,ever make the job harder than it need's to be .

I have to agree with you there

 

[busyalready]

have read all the suggestions butyou are brave ro take on such a task for your first time. your mosaic border looks like it might need to be sealed as well before fixing but that is a piece of cake. also another tip i got off the forum is to use a grout float to pad on the mosaic border, it goes on nice and easy, level and the adhesive doesn't squish through beween those wee blighters!

 

[macten]

I would personally opt for the plasterboard option above the sand + cement.
Why remove the render if it is sound - thought this was the best substrate to tile to and above that you would have plasterboard - the second best substrate to tile to. Cheapest, easiest and fastest option imo.

I will definately tank my own bathroom when I get round to doing it, seen too much water damage in the past. Agree it isn't always absolutely necessary but if you explain the benefits and the customer wants it then that's a good thing for the both of you. If they didn't want it then I certainly wouldn't walk away from the job.

 

[DHTiling]

I can see the pics no probs..........as for the walls i would just dry line it out mate..much quicker and will make it nice and flat for tiling........

 

[TilingLogistics]

I will always say that unless you are going to spend hours a day in the bath/shower then tanking is not needed (get your money back),tanking is a fairly new thing and the amount of tiler's i know(the list is very long)will not get involved with using it,why make a hard job more difficult ,for instance i tiled by bathroom about five years ago (no tanking)and i shower once a day and so does my wife and also my daughter has 3 to 4 baths a week and after all that usage, i have no damp ,no leakage and no discolouration of grout .

If people are wondering why they don't gety job's and are sitting at home the reason is they are pricing for thing's that are not needed.

Never ,ever make the job harder than it need's to be .

I agree with you about making extra work where not needed. I disagree with you on the tanking. BAL WP1 is quick and easy to use, it works and an excellent add on to earn more money.

Kev

 

[macten]

OMG is that a see through bog seat?!? :lol:

 

[Deleted member 1779]

I agree with Macten and Dave

Board it out / plasterboard.

Pack out the gaps and dont bother to remove the render the cement. Did the same thing on my own bathroom and went floor to ceiling with tiles.

Better to have a flat large wall than a step.

This is mine. Tiled all the way to the floor top to bottom.

Flat walls look much better - [Finished shot with everything straight]

In fact the soil-stack came out over 4inches and so I boarded that out flat which obviously takes a huge chunk out the room. So rather than waste the space I inset niches for storage which can just about be seen above on the very left of the piccy.

Plasterboard and flat walls all the way....

PS: Love the pictures. Always good to see work in progress. And also seeing them inset as part of the post. Keep it going!