New Acorn Tile Levelling System

[Old Mod]

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just my opinions, and I'm sure people who get used to using them cant tile without them ha (no dig intended)? 🙂

.....and not a lash clip in sight!.....

Aug JOTM 2015

 

[Dan]

I've never used these but was always of the same thought. And I've said it loads.

But it does seem many use them. And it does appear to help with the huge tiles that are just easier to mess up if one slips it can cause a half hour head ache.

 

[Simon benn Leeds]

I'm definitely coming round to the idea of the lash clips on large format tiles, I take it there's still an element of bedding up on uneven floors?

As for the Acorn system? Not too sure yet but would be interesting to get feed back from people who have a lot of experience using them..

So I will leave it as NEVER say NEVER!...

 

[Dan]

My thought was always down the line of, if you're holding a tile up with clips that would otherwise fall/dip, then surely it needs pulling up and more adhesive applying; not holding up until what adhesive is under it sets.

Then add that to the fact large tiles are hard to get full coverage under without extra water in the mix etc and you have loads of chances to end up with voids and whatnot.

But as said; I've not used them and the lads who have do rate them. Especially the wedge type.

 

[Ceramic Art Ste]

I've used raimondi lash and rubi. There ok to use on large format calibrated tiles on an uneven subfloor. Other than that they add cost to the job and slow you right down. Think there more for diy folk.

 

[AD Ceramics]

These are similar to what the sell at my supplier, needless to say I've never bought them.
Not once have I seen them tamp the floor down or check for level, and how are you meant to wash the joints out??
Absolute wast of time effort and money, definitely not a tiler if you you have to use stuff like,
Tiling is a skill you hone over years not a process!..

I agree with @Ray TT @ Porcel-Thin i could tile faster than them 3 and labour on myself

DIY, DIY, DIY

I reckon they would be useful when working with large format on stud walls, you know what it's like when you try and push tile back and the wall flexes push one corner and the other ones pops up.
Never used them myself but I thought I may give them a go at some stage.
My tile supplier has asked me a few times if I have any interest in using them and I have always said they are for clueless muppets that can't do the job.
Think they could be an addition to the tool box especially with some of the crap building practice and porcelain about.

 

[White Room]

It's funny that a couple of years ago I wouldn't have used a grinder to cut socket holes in tiles now I find it easier.

 

[Simon benn Leeds]

I reckon they would be useful when working with large format on stud walls, you know what it's like when you try and push tile back and the wall flexes push one corner and the other ones pops up.
Never used them myself but I thought I may give them a go at some stage.
My tile supplier has asked me a few times if I have any interest in using them and I have always said they are for clueless muppets that can't do the job.
Think they could be an addition to the tool box especially with some of the crap building practice and porcelain about.

Definitely coming round to the idea myself now.

 

[Old Mod]

When working with large format on stud walls
the wall flexes push one corner and the other ones pops up.

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I'd already be worried if you're fixing large format to walls that flex!
Their primary function is not to force down corners that 'pop up!'

I have always said they are for clueless muppets that can't do the job.

Careful, glass houses and all! 😀

Never used them myself

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But that's the problem!

This is nothing personal @AD Ceramics, 😉
But u've just about nailed most of the reasons and myths as to why using levelling straps is frowned upon! Haha

They're an aid to help keep pieces in place whilst the adhesive cures.
They're certainly not supposed to be used to force tiles down so much so that it puts undue stress on, not only the adhesive, but the tile too!

If you're using them to prevent a corner 'popping up' that gives cynics the argument they need to suggest they create voids below the tiling!

I make no secret that I use them when I feel it's necessary, and I think they can be a valuable aid.

Not everybody gets on with them, or even certain systems, and I'll reiterate,
The last person that should use them is a DIY'er, if they are to be used in the way that they are intended!
They take a fair bit of practise to use too!

I'm not here to promote their use, not at all, after more than 30yrs in the job I'm kind of aware we all have our ways of achieving the finish we want!

I just don't like being called a DIY'er! Haha
Isn't that right @Simon benn Leeds 😀

 

[AD Ceramics]

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I'd already be worried if you're fixing large format to walls that flex!
Their primary function is not to force down corners that 'pop up!'





Careful, glass houses and all! 😀


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But that's the problem!

This is nothing personal @AD Ceramics, 😉
But u've just about nailed most of the reasons and myths as to why using levelling straps is frowned upon! Haha

They're an aid to help keep pieces in place whilst the adhesive cures.
They're certainly not supposed to be used to force tiles down so much so that it puts undue stress on, not only the adhesive, but the tile too!

If you're using them to prevent a corner 'popping up' that gives cynics the argument they need to suggest they create voids below the tiling!

I make no secret that I use them when I feel it's necessary, and I think they can be a valuable aid.

Not everybody gets on with them, or even certain systems, and I'll reiterate,
The last person that should use them is a DIY'er, if they are to be used in the way that they are intended!
They take a fair bit of practise to use too!

I'm not here to promote their use, not at all, after more than 30yrs in the job I'm kind of aware we all have our ways of achieving the finish we want!

I just don't like being called a DIY'er! Haha
Isn't that right @Simon benn Leeds 😀

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surely in you 30 years you must have come across a partition put up by some muppet of a joiner that flexes or bounces? The point I was trying to make is that some of the practices that builders etc do are substandard substrates to work on and if they tell you they take all responsibility for the work sometimes you just have to get on with it and this product will assist like the guy earlier in the thread installing plank tiles randomly.
I don't think I mentioned about putting undue stress on the tile maybe I didn't choose my words correctly but what you replied is exactly what I was trying to get accross. And I don't live In a glass house