Plasplugs Cutters

[versatilene]

Ah well!! that makes it allright then.

 

[Fekin]

Ah well!! that makes it allright then.

It's not a case of "it's allright then", it's a simple case of ecnomics.

Their countries are over populated, millions of people with no jobs and no way of supporting themselves, the whole cost of living is tiny compared to the western world so people only need to earn a fraction to have their standard of living.

So theres 2 options really.

Stick to producing everything in your own country, higher workers wages means products are far more expensive, so consumers in the long run need to earn more money to pay for everything they need, meaning workers demand more money to do the job, so the products become more expensive to produce, and so it goes on and on, like a snowball effect.

We "the western world" have our very expensive consumer products as a result, and that then means millions of people in the less developed world are say no longer producing anything for the west, and as their countries economy is so poor, they don't have way enough jobs for their own people producing what they need for themselves, so they have no jobs, giving them no money.
No money is third world crisis, people in the end starve if their goverment cannot support the unemployed, which they can't as it is.

So shall we have a mix of the two.

Pay people in eastern countries the same wages they would get living here ?

So they end up earning £80 per day, when it only costs them £5 per month to live.

I think you might find their country then gripped with excessive inflation.

Whats the point in that, we might as well pay someone living here to do the job for the same money and pay double for the products for the pleasure of it.

It's all about having a good mix.

I also work in a coal fired power station as well as being a tiler.
We buy coal from all around the world, and have done since the early eighties.

Coal from places like South Africa, Russia and so on costs us a fraction of what British coal does, all because of how expensive it is to get it from the ground in the first place.
So yeah we could say, right we will only buy british coal, costs would go through the roof to produce elecrticity, the national grid would have to pay excessive prices from us, then pass on that excessive price to the consumer, so your electric bill would probably quadruple.

You might want to look at where over half the products or more you currently buy are actually made.

 

[versatilene]

Justify it how you want. Im all right jack

 

[Fekin]

Im not trying to justify anything, Im simply pointing out the obvious.

You tell me how things could be done better then ?

It's a simple case of, we either produce everything ourselves and pay a far higher price for it and millions in poor countries starve because there are no jobs for them, or we ship production of certain things overseas where it's far cheeper to produce, we pay less for the products and millions are in a job earning money to live.

That is how the world works, so you don't have to get on your high horse over this at me when Im simply stating how the world works.

But if you feel you have a better solution, then the world would like to know about it versatilene.

 

[versatilene]

Millions aren't starving because there's no work for them, they're starving because we in the west exploit them by paying peanuts thus forcing those who can get work to work long hours just to survive. It would be better to pay a fair rate so people could afford to work less hours and spread the work out among more people. No two ways about it the might and greed of the developed countries is keeping the third world from sharing its wealth.

I didn't mean to wind anyone up so please lets not get personal (high horses etc.) each to our own opinion and I like nothing better than a good bit of banter.
How did this happen from a tile cutter??

 

[Fekin]

I wasnt getting at you versatilene, I was just pointing out how the world currently works.

The feel from your post was lets have it made abroad so it cheeper for me and Im allright jack or whatever, lol

You seemed to be against the plasplug being produced in the middle east, hence making it cheeper to buy here, so I was just saying why it's done, as Im sure everyone knows why production ships overseas often, but you said I was trying to justify it, which I wasn't, just saying why they do it.

I was perfectly happy to pay £125 for a cutter, but if productions going to go east and the price is going to be slashed in october, then i will wait to buy one when the price is lower.

Yes maybe people could be payed more and work less hours, but thats nothing I can do about it.

Anyway, back on track 🙂

 

[penno]

Wow a topic about cutters has turned into debates on world polotics.
Should just agree to disagree lads, very touchy subject.

 

[Fekin]

There wasn't really anything to agree or dissagree on really, just how the world works, lol
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Sorry for the high horse comment, don't mean to be getting personal if that's how it sounded, lol

 

[Dave-T]

I'm quite happy to sit on my high horse. lol
if we shifted all our production out of the far east and back to england so they didn't "suffer on poor wages". They'd be more f****d than boy george. They might be poor, but its thanks to us shifting production over there that theyre not dead!!

 

[ryanbrown]

blimey.