Plastic ply used it but not sure about it!!!

[merit]

ive used the genesis g flex which is the equivelant, had the same worries as you ,adhesive not in contact with floor,
i went straight over new floor boards as specified,problem i found was coming to grout next day adhesive had not dried
the water from the addy has no where to go, because of the film of plastic or whatever it is on the bottom of the mat.
went down a dream, just peel back off and lay brickbond
wait and see if its any good

 

[aph257]

ive used the genesis g flex which is the equivelant, had the same worries as you ,adhesive not in contact with floor,
i went straight over new floor boards as specified,problem i found was coming to grout next day adhesive had not dried
the water from the addy has no where to go, because of the film of plastic or whatever it is on the bottom of the mat.
went down a dream, just peel back off and lay brickbond
wait and see if its any good

What do you mean "water has got no where to go"? Thats only if you're using "TUBBED" stuff, which of course as you know is not suitable for floors.

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I had a Nicobond rep came to see me today (nice guy) but I'm still not convinced about this stuff. Just wondered if anyone has any updates, good/bad?

 

[Stewart]

It's still rubbish IMO.....


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[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

Even though I have never/ will never use it I agree Stewart, can't see how it could overcome deflection.

 

[Gazzer]

When using new products I need to be sure in my own head that I understand it...and can explain to the client how the product works.......As yet I cant with this one. So I wont be using it.

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

Thanks Neale, that just about sums it up for me. I did ask the guy to have a look on here for feedback.

 

[MTiler]

Ive used it a few times, the first time at least a couple of years ago and have not had any comebacks. Ive only ever used it on small, sturdy floors and where height under work tops is a big issue.
That fact that the sticky coating stops the ady going through the gaps is surely no different to applying ady to Ditra Matting?

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

Thanks Sharon, but I fix Ditra to the sub-floor with two part adhesive, then use single part to fix the tiles. I am still wary of this stuff, and won't be risking it. I still can't get my head round the concept, the rep told me there had been zero reported failures. Yet we have seen pictures on this forum of jobs that have failed.

 

[turnip]

Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I had a Nicobond rep came to see me today (nice guy) but I'm still not convinced about this stuff. Just wondered if anyone has any updates, good/bad?

as per my earlier post, we installed 150msq approx, last summer, the installation has not failed. also used on chipboard flooring on new build housing developments, small areas only though. again no failures. Im not wholly convinced by the stuff but no real evidence to doubt it, just needs time to be in the market and build a rep.
worst things about it, very sticky, it will take off a layer of skin if you lean on it too hard, and its hard to peel off the backer if your wearing gloves, other than that it does the job.

 

[Andrew Oates]

dont like sound of it i used to work for a sub company of n&c i dont rate alot of there stuff

 

[Spud]

I used it today as I think I need to give it a try ,I used it on a 6m2 18mm plywood floor being totally honest I cant believe the hype at the moment
1 Firstly it it supposed to be quicker than installing ditra
it isnt as as the floor needs to be primed and you have to wait for that to dry out 100% before you can lay the plastic ply where if you stick ditra with an acryllic glue such as f44 you can get on it in pretty much straight away
2. height difference ditra 3mm plastic ply 2mm
3.you use less adhesive with plastic ply ,to get a warranty you have to use the N&c flexirapid which is more expensive than some brands of flex rapid that are available
so there is no cost saving there
4.plastic ply is expensive £20 per pack retail for 1.2m2 best trade price £12.50 m2
Ditra trade price £6-£8m2
5. deflection its has been claimed plastic ply allows tiling over floors showing slight deflection but when you call their technical dept. they insist the floors must be deflection free
So In my opinion plastic ply is not a bad product by any means but I wont be changing from Ditra anytime soon

 

[peckers]

Since starting this post I have never used it again, not because i thought it was a bad product or it has failed but because i couldnt see any advantages of using it.

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

Me neither, Gary, me neither.

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

Sorry Steve, my slow typing again.