Pricing a job - the complete list!

[anne0411]

Hi Found this on another website - it lists everything from different types of tiles/grout etc to extras like edging strip to ply. It doesn't cover everything but it certainly helped me!

Hope it helps...

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Be sure to add etc to all their prices as it's Spring 2006!

PS don't tell them it was me that sent you! :angel_smile:

 

[Dan]

That's a fair pricing guide!

 

[alberttrotter1]

Thanks Anne,
This will be very helpful for this newbie, rather than trying to guesstimate everything.
Albert

 

[BrhTiling]

God knows how they ever get any work at those prices. If I were a customer and they quoted me at £195 day rate I would tell them to f*ck right off. £5.50 extra per m2 for brick bond or £9.50 extra for diamond cut... What planet are those guys on?

 

[enduro]

yeah, thats what i thought brh, why do they charge extra for diamond cuts, i charge the same, no harder to do...living in a dream world i think

 

[Dan]

I used to charge more for diamond tiling due to the fact that you're probably not going to find two cuts the same. On a floor the price went from £28 per meter to £40!!!!

I tiled MANY diamond floors.

You can charge the right price for your labour if you justify this reasons to the customers. On the same note though, if you don't think yourself that the charges can be justified you'll never be able to charge higher prices.

Square tiling only is easy peasy and the cuts go down a dream. Diamond can be a pig to setout to standard and to cut all the shaped tiles accurately and tidy WHILST keeping up your speed to earn equal to a days square tiling.

Similar with brickbond too, that can slow you down a little but I doubt i'd charge more for it if it wasn't a tile with a serious bevelled edge which can again get tricky to keep it looking flat for example.

Grouting with flexi is slower than normal due to the setting / working time so again, a 50 meter job has now had an hour or so added on so you need to absorb the extra labour time in the pricing somewhere.

What that price list does is point out the extra work per jobs and gives a guide to what you can justify charging extra for. The prices could be just a guide in your area but they're not far off right in my opinion.

If you had a price list like that and stuck to it (even if the prices were a % cheaper allround but with the standard fixing charge similar to the one shown) you'd not loose out on many jobs I can tell you.

 

[DHTiling]

some of them prices are high but i suppose it depends on what area of the country you are in as these can vary quite abit.........

 

[BrhTiling]

Perhaps I am just aiming at a different market or something. My aim is to give a top quality finish and earn enough money to live off.... at those prices I'm not sure many people are this area could / would afford to get work done.

Poles / eastern guys come in and work for less than half that.... even with a good sales pitch to the customer, money speaks!

 

[Dan]

Money does talk you're right. But you can use it in your favour. Which is why that price list is so itemised. If they said £65 per meter for brickbond diamond with flexigrout and plyoverlay the PLUS material costs, they'd never get a job. But itemising it works for the customer and them it seems, everybody is happy they know what they are getting.

I think you'll always have customers that you know can't afford, and generally ou try and fit them in as and when you can but obviously you want to be aiming your market at work that is easy and gives you more profit.

And Mr Jones on the nice estate probably wants to know where his cash is going etc.

Obviously though those that you are doing for not much profit you will usually be using standard adhesives and tiling square, normal and easy. Obviously still keeping your reputation with that market but allowing you to serve the higher end too.

But if you aim at the cheap budget end and work in a rusty small van FOREVER (I know you have to use what you have at times) and you don't look the part you only have your price and rep to go by, and with most of you having no rep it's price and price alone. Which means you will find it hard to get out of the lower end price-war tiling.

I think :S

 

[DHTiling]

Well said that man.... ( dan )....

 

[GazTech]

These are London prices when tendering for royalty and harley st surgeons surely?

 

[anne0411]

I guess it does depend on what are you live in and although I'm in London I know of a tiler in Bath charging 200/day. I've quoted that price for a kitchen splash back 4m x .5m - didn't get the job as I was too cheap! I've been charging 32.49/m as per this list and been told by developers that I should charge a min of £45/m!

Recently I went on a sales course - I'm hopeless at selling myself and I think everyone should go on one. The basic msg on the course was you're not really selling as everyone likes spending money and they've contacted you for a quote! The customer wants to spend their money and they'll spend it with the person they like the most and not the cheapest! We all know ourselves that if you get 3 plumbers (or other trade) into quote on something, the cheapest one gets binned straight away.

Get confident in your prices and so will your customer. :angel_smile:

 

[tjsmiler]

Lol Gaz........ I agree with BRH that price does matter........but it only matters like you say Dan to those unfortunate customers who don't have much spare. I started off working in that end of the market but you soon realise that although you can earn a wage from it, it aint gonna make you rich as you have to keep your prices so low in order to compete as BRH says with the rest of europe!!!

I find that the customers who live in the big houses and have plenty of money do not give too much thought to the cost, in fact they all bang on about the same thing, the quality and apperence for when their friends come. Another thing with this end of the market is the fact that eastern europeans can't penatrate it because there is no way that people like this will hire someone who can't even speak the language (they just won't take the chance)

Just to give you an example i quoted a job yesterday before i got home for an Indian couple who live in a more expensive part of my town, 22m2 bathroom walls and 7m2 floor space (they also have 3 other bathrooms and a conservatory for the right person) they told me before i started measuring that they had had 1 other quote and told me he quoted £650 all in (good price) however i stood there and spoke to them about there project i tried to give them ideas of how all the bathrooms could compliment one another and how TOGETHER we could construct the job to give the whole house a certain feel of class and good taste as you walk from room to room. They both got right involved in the conversation and told me thaey had not even given a thought to all the rooms complimenting each other and were really looking forward to getting started with it. So when i gave my price of £900 THEY DIDDN'T EVEN FLINCH..these people want quality and people they can trust and are not so hung up with cost.

BRH i have read a few of your posts and you certainly seem to know where you wanna go and you make good sense too... if you want to know some of the little things i did to break into the higher end of the market then PM me mate :wink_smile:

TJ

 

[christo]

£26 for plaster m2,rendering yes but not for plastering