Question for Andy C Tiles used on your wet room in your album

[Tilly]

Hi

I have reading this forum for a few weeks now, I'm supposed to be having a wet room but seem to be having issues with everything I want to have in the bathroom.

Anyway, today's problem. I had picked out a Topps Tiles, travertine tile but on reading this forum properly last night, it's going to be too heavy. I have solid walls that are plastered. I did not want tiles all round just the wet room area an d possibly behind the free-standing bath going in. Any ways the tiles I had picked work out 31kg per m2. Why the blummin tiler could not have told me this when I gave him the tile when he came round to quote.

Andy C. Have been looking at your album, the photos of a wet room you have recently put up, I just wondered if i could perhaps ask what tiles they were you used? Also are they more than 20g per m2?

Can anyone possably point me in the direction of travertine that's not too heavy or a good lookie likely!

many thanks

 

[kilty55]

hi tilly,im slightly confused as your reffering to a wetroom but from what you have described half is going to be plaster finish and also a bath in it? really sounds like a bathroom to be honest

on the other question you can get some good ceramic travertine lookalikes topps do one and so do ctd which will comply with your skim plaster weight issues

 

[Tilly]

Thanks, it is a bathroom with one side being a wet room so the shower and the adjoining wall will be tiles top to bottom, with a single glass divide if that makes sense! I was hoping to have a minimal look, so easy on the tiling for the rest.

I'm having trouble as well deciding where exactly to put tiles, without the ago of now having to find another tile I like.

I want the look that Andy C has done on a recent wet room album picture.

 

[kilty55]

ahh ok tilly i understand what you mean now it sounds nice as youve already found out stone is too heavy for a plaster skim finish so the ceramic look will still be nice,i assume you dont want the added expense of re prepping the room to take the stone?

 

[Tilly]

It's not so much the expense of the extra prep its the look. I have a rectangular room. Short wall to the left will be the bath, short wall to the right the wet room bit. The furthest long wall has a big window with the sink under and the loo to the right. Hope your following!

I can't decide how I should tile. At the minute the tiles run round the room half height, so if I follow that with new tiles they are going to be really proud of the wall with backing board as well as a thick tile.

Other option, not to tile along that wall at all? Not sure how to get a balanced look but being minimal at the same time.

Still leaves me to find a tile that won't pull my house down!

 

[kilty55]

ok i have a visual in my head of what ur room looks like now,still confused as no shower has been mentioned which is what i thought was going to be on the right hand side of the glass screen hence making it a wet area?

at the moment tilly what is the substrate your walls are made off?

 

[Tilly]

I'm as bad at describing as I am at visualising! Shower head coming out of ceiling and having a Topps 900 x 1200 base that will be tiled over on the other side of that single glass divide.

So walk in the door, straight to the right will be screen with shower the other side, straight to the left bath.

All of the walls in my house are solid walls, with nice slippery shiny plaster on top giving me a headache over not just the tiles but the taps! I have no stud walls what's so ever.

 

[kilty55]

ok got you now

when you rip the bathroom out why dont you get it re prepped?

say for example you got the whole room plasterboarded dot n dabbed then you could use your travertineto dado height and skim finish the parts you dont want tiled without having lippage?

 

[kilty55]

To further on this post I contacted BG for a little clarification :

Quote:
Hi

Ok lets just be sure about this.

The 32kg/m2 is weight per m2 with the adhesive and grout of say 3kg/m2 factored in

Regards
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Thank you for your further enquiry.

This weight is intended to include the combined weight of adhesive and grout, although in reality, this may be minimal.

Regards
Drywall Academy - Technical Advice Centre
Now that this is all clear where does that leave us tilers………..

I took 2 pieces of QUALITY high density Travertine so these figures are high.

10mm travertine 100x100mm square weighs 237grams

12.5mm travertine 100x100mm square weighs 291grams.


Using these 2 figures :

1m2 of 10mm travertine weighs 23.7kg

1m2 of 12.5mm travertine weighs 29kg


This would suggest that :

Un-plastered plaster board on studs fixed as per manufacturers guidelines can support 10 and 12.5mm travertine in large areas up to 3m high.

Un-plastered plaster board on dot and dab fixed as per manufacturers guidelines (drying time) can support 10 and 12.5mm travertine in large areas up to 3m high


If you find a hole in my math or other area shout out and I will redo it I not as good at numbers as Grumps…………….


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[Tilly]

Sounds like a plan! I know I said not so much the expense, but does preping as you suggest sound like an expensive job to add on? The plan was to have a plasterer anyway to make good where I decided not to have tiles, so his cost was sort factored.

 

[kilty55]

i cant comment on plasterers prices but to be honest plaster and plasterboard are both very cheap items,the only other expense would be the plasterer for a few days so yes if you are going to be doing a good quality wetroom using travertine and having it tanked personally i would spend that bit extra on prepping it properly as it will give you peice of mind...doug boardley,i would call a plasterer and ask for a quote it will give you an idea of price differences for the 2 different jobs.

 

[doug boardley]

Tilly, I've been trying to locate Andy C's album, can you give me the page number in the "all albums" page

 

[kilty55]

cant find anyone called andy c either doug

 

[Andy Tiler]

hi tilly this might be a bit late but is this one of my pictures??? :welcome: