quick approval for job price

[MrSpoon]

off to speak to the chap in charge of these apartments ive been asked to provde an estimate for.

2 rooms need tiling in the apartment, bathroom and wet room, toilet and sinks are boxed in in each room, total area with 10% added for cuts is 26m2, 18.5m2 walls, 7.5m2 floors

i was thinking £460 for labour based on £18 per m2, but that price is including the 10% wastage for cuts.. so thought £400 for labour, does this seem fair? all porcelain tailes and a quick add up came to £197 for the materials, tho that was with topps and it looks like i may be purchasing the tiles and adhesives from tile town for this job.

i dont want to charge too much as i could really do with tiling all 24 of the apartments naturally!

 

[Turkish]

Well cheap IMO!

Turkish

 

[MrSpoon]

hmm what would you charge? i know its on the cheap side.. but if i could get these jobs id be more than happy to do them, all floors are concrete, so no messing about with ply, and im earning £400 a month through a crap supermarket job anyway :mad2:

 

[felix]

I don't know what the prices round your way are like, but for that I would be charging about £550 for the labour. I would be looking at 3 and a half possibly 4 days work there. It sounds cheap to me, but i don't know what its like in your area. Its also a consideration that there is the possiblity of repeat business.

You know how much your work is worth. If your happy with your price and its reasonable to you, then go for it. That also includes times where the customer thinks its expensive

 

[Turkish]

I don't know what the prices round your way are like, but for that I would be charging about £550 for the labour. I would be looking at 3 and a half possibly 4 days work there. It sounds cheap to me, but i don't know what its like in your area. Its also a consideration that there is the possiblity of repeat business.

You know how much your work is worth. If your happy with your price and its reasonable to you, then go for it. That also includes times where the customer thinks its expensive

Good points there! I would have been £650 labour but then i`m only part time and in the fortunate position of being able to be choosy. Whatever you`re happy with mate!

Turkish

 

[MrSpoon]

to be hoinest ive kinda of worked things aroudn what the property developers budget is for each apartment, tho we all know they go over so i think im gonna have to stick to my guns and keep with my £18 per m2, as theres a good chance ill be kept on for the rest of the project, as for dommestic work ill be charging £20 per m2, will be my first paying jobs aswell

 

[felix]

to be hoinest ive kinda of worked things aroudn what the property developers budget is for each apartment, tho we all know they go over so i think im gonna have to stick to my guns and keep with my £18 per m2, as theres a good chance ill be kept on for the rest of the project, as for dommestic work ill be charging £20 per m2, will be my first paying jobs aswell

Best of luck mate. As I said, the important thing is that you feel you are happy with the price you are charging

 

[Turkish]

Hope you get the rest of the work mate! Good luck

Turkish

 

[MrSpoon]

i think it will probably take me a few days to complete but thweres no real rush for them either which is kind of in my favour, just going to measure up and check it all out and setting up business and trade accounts have boosted my confidence massively, for me this appartment will be another notch on the experience stick, the second one that i hear will need doing too will be another notch and ive been asked to give a quote for the main entrance hallway to the lift area, so with those 3 jobs under my belt i should be more than happy to undertake more challenges and seek more work further afield, tho id still happliy do these jobs for the same price for the time being, helps being 23 with no ties and no bills tho i guess!, after that i'll be scrapping the cheap labour!

 

[Olz]

I would look at it this way if it were me.

Am i happy to go in cheap, but have the possibility of 24? other jobs lined up on the basis of being a bit cheaper?

Would i be turning down 24 better paid jobs to do these ones?

Im I going to give myself oppertunity to gain 24 jobs worth of experience which i may not get in the same time scale if i look for the work else where?

Based on the above factors am i happy to work for £18/m2?

Will doing the 24 jobs build my portfolio and reputation?

From reading your posts mate regarding this i think you've probably already made your mind up, go for it mate, fortune favours the brave and all that.

If you do get the work... which i think given the attitude you seem to be approching it with you probably will then i genuinley wish you the best of luck.

Just my inexperienced 2p's worth mate.

Oli

 

[MrSpoon]

haha cheers oli! im gonna stick with my £460 and see how i get on, if i get it i get it if i dont, ill provide more bloomin tile samples till i get it! ill let you all know how i get one

 

[theyomper]

Just one thing .....as a property developer .....how's he going to pay? Having worked for a developer in the past they tend to 'Tax you at source' like the old CIS system. Nowadays you don't need a card just a Unique Tax Code number that you apply for.
Also it's nice to 'have a carrot dangled at you but can you be guarentted of the future work?
I would look at pricing the first job correctly with the option of offering a discount on the remaining apartments. Developers love a discount. Has he given you a budget to work to? If not ask.
Good luck

 

[Fekin]

I know this is a hard question as you have not done a propper tiling job yet, but how long are you thinking each apartment will take you to complete ?

 

[MrSpoon]

about 4 to 5 days
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Just one thing .....as a property developer .....how's he going to pay? Having worked for a developer in the past they tend to 'Tax you at source' like the old CIS system. Nowadays you don't need a card just a Unique Tax Code number that you apply for.
Also it's nice to 'have a carrot dangled at you but can you be guarentted of the future work?
I would look at pricing the first job correctly with the option of offering a discount on the remaining apartments. Developers love a discount. Has he given you a budget to work to? If not ask.
Good luck

ive registered as self employed and my unique tax code wont be available for another 3 or 4 weeks, so ill have to be charged emergency tax and claim the difference back if i start the job before the tax can be set up properly, and their budget for each appartment is £900 per apartment, i calculate with my labour and materials and average price for the tile range their after comes in at £1,041, i know theres no guaruntee for the work but to be honest id still do the job for £100 as im after the experience to build up my confidence more
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I know this is a hard question as you have not done a propper tiling job yet, but how long are you thinking each apartment will take you to complete ?

5 days probably

 

[grumpygrouter]

No such thing as "emergency tax" in the CIS scheme, only 2 rates, registered rate of 20% or unregistered at 30%. Once it is deducted there is no "claiming it back", you have to wait until you have submitted your year end tax return.

You will probably find that by the time you have completed the work and issued your first invoice your UTR will be with you.

Also, as a first job, I bet it takes you more than 5 days!

Best of luck, I hope you get it.