Raimondi Tile Leveling System

[Old Mod]

OK I gotta step in here (Red Wine night) I've tried these clips on a a few occasions now and have thrown the rest in the bin. From my perspective all they do is lift the uneven tile up, so creating a void.
Lets face it, its easier to lift up than push down with these clips, and if using a 5mm notched trowel you have to lift the tile in the bed to get the clip under, thus creating the void to start with.

Well if you're using a 5mm trowel you're not gonna achieve a full bed anyway.
And if they're lifting tiles, the tile you've already laid, isn't laid correctly.
There is NO way, a clip is strong enough to lift a fully bedded tile. And I don't care what you say, it's just not happening.

 

[aytiling]

Well if you're using a 5mm trowel you're not gonna achieve a full bed anyway.
And if they're lifting tiles, the tile you've already laid, isn't laid correctly.
There is NO way, a clip is strong enough to lift a fully bedded tile. And I don't care what you say, it's just not happening.

Of course I have no idea what I'm talking about. I might as well train to do something else because in 45 years of doing this job I haven't learned the basics yet

 

[Old Mod]

Of course I have no idea what I'm talking about. I might as well train to do something else because in 45 years of doing this job I haven't learned the basics yet

Not quite what I suggested, but I'll apologise for sounding off on you.
I'm sorry.

 

[GoneGuy]

OK I gotta step in here (Red Wine night) I've tried these clips on a a few occasions now and have thrown the rest in the bin. From my perspective all they do is lift the uneven tile up, so creating a void.
Lets face it, its easier to lift up than push down with these clips, and if using a 5mm notched trowel you have to lift the tile in the bed to get the clip under, thus creating the void to start with.

I use them on floors, using 10mm - 12mm notched trowel minimum so there is a fairly sized bed of adhesive and back butter the tile as advised by rls, and I always check do voids and add extra adhesive where needed.

 

[Kyle Knowles]

OK I gotta step in here (Red Wine night) I've tried these clips on a a few occasions now and have thrown the rest in the bin. From my perspective all they do is lift the uneven tile up, so creating a void.
Lets face it, its easier to lift up than push down with these clips, and if using a 5mm notched trowel you have to lift the tile in the bed to get the clip under, thus creating the void to start with.

Who in the rite mind uses a 5mm trowel with a tile big enough to need a leveling system anyway? ????

 

[WetSaw]

Lets face it, its easier to lift up than push down with these clips, and if using a 5mm notched trowel you have to lift the tile in the bed to get the clip under, thus creating the void to start with.

As others with far more experience than me have said, if the tile is bedded correctly a plastic clip (that is designed to break) is unlikely to lift a tile. Were you using the type with the curved base? Clearly they need more room to initially insert under the tile and aren't as good,IMHO, as the flat base type.

 

[Dumbo]

5mm trowel on floor not sure about that .
Min I've used on floor on any tile tile over 300 square is 10 mm

 

[AT&S]

Raimondi or other levelling clips will leave you with hollow badly fixed tiles as likely as not if not done correctly.

My honest opinion is that they are a tool for professionals not a tool that lets DIY'ers (irrespective of competence) become tilers.

As for a 5mm trowel. no way.

I only used a tiger tooth trowel with these, created a (45deg L shape) folded notch of adhesive and this is applied to tile and surface. As such should the tile lift slightly the adhesive can still provide full coverage.

http://www.trimlinegroup.com/media/...9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/3/1356.png

Hard to describe this with pictures but put your fists together knuckle to knuckle as if they are adhesive touching from tile and say floor, you pull your fists apart 5mm and you have a 5mm gap. Do the same but extend your fingers (your knuckles and finger nails on opposing hands are touching, pull your knuckles 5mm apart and most of your fingers are still touching. Thats the best analogy I can think off.

RLS are not a magic wand, and do not solve uneven substrate issues.

Oh, and should you use it, the yellow pliers are on ebay for about £4 and are just as good as the raimondi ones.

Best of luck.

 

[Paul Smith]

Oh, and should you use it, the yellow pliers are on ebay for about £4 and are just as good as the raimondi ones.

Best of luck.

Have you an item number?
cheers

 

[Simons70]

Of course I have no idea what I'm talking about. I might as well train to do something else because in 45 years of doing this job I haven't learned the basics yet

IMO is better to do something else.With 5 mm trowel you can't even try to use clips,you need at lest 3 mm full bed adhesive for.If you try to use clips on metro tiles or 200x200 biscuit tiles I really doubt about yours 45 years on this job.I have just 32 or 33 years on tools and I still ask and learn...