Right or wrong ?

[Time's Ran Out]

not opinion, its incorrect, sorry to say, I will always back another tiler, unless its blatant.... sorry to say there are fundamental setting out faults here, not sure with 30 years experience it has been set out this way ?

I assume as the customer has no tiling experience it is her opinion that it is wrong. It is also a few members of this forum opinion that this setting out is acceptable.
I therefore suggest that it is a question of opinions - M'lord.

 

[Chalker]

The customer is seeing the un-equal cuts to the sides of the window, this could have been avoided if a full tile was used at the Center, but centring the wc was correct.

 

[Dougs Third Go]

I just spent about a minute looking at that image wondering why the ceiling was tiled:8:

Snap! I've just looked again this morning and realised that the pic needs rotating by 90 deg lol!

 

[Qwerty]

Definitely needed a full tile in the centre IMO

 

[Stef]

There's nothing wrong with the tiling, it's just a difference of opinion on the setting out.
It's not wrong the way it's been done, it's just not the way I would do it.
As Chalker says her eyes being drawn to the unequal cuts either side of the window.

 

[Spud]

if you dont get paid for a nice job like this then we should all give up tiling now , there were no set out drawings and the customer complimented the guy on his work when he was finished

 

[widler]

I'd bite the bullet,go in to do it again ,knock them off,clean up and tell the silly cow to do it herself .
I would of set it so it's a full tile,but it still looks fine ,she sounds a right Idjeet

 

[Saltire69]

Agree with John on this one. As soon as you open the door your eyes are drawn to the cuts at the window. Not wither the flush is center. For me as a rule of thumb I never have cuts on short(shorter than a full tile) boxing in. Just think your eyes get drawn to that more than anything. For me a lot of our job is getting the setting out pleasing to the eye. Centering is great if it all works out ok to the eye. How many eyes in their lol

 

[Stef]

I only had a year to go before I was a time served brickie, I had an instructor who was an absolute master at his trade & he always told me that it doesn't have to be level it's what's pleasing to the eye!!!
I have always stood by that statement in whatever I do & it's always stood me in good stead whether it's level, plumb etc...

 

[AliGage]

I had an arguement all geared up and ready for this but just went back and looked at the picture again.

If the tile was centred through the flush plate it would be better set out. The cuts up the window would have been avoided.

But its unfair not to be paid for it. Other than the oversight in settong out, it looks good

 

[peterwhayward]

Mrct has said in his original post that the customer wanted the window centred so he could not have put a full tile in the middle of the flush without the cuts either side being odd........or am I missing something.?. (probably)

 

[AliGage]

Mrct has said in his original post that the customer wanted the window centred so he could not have put a full tile in the middle of the flush without the cuts either side being odd........or am I missing something.?. (probably)

centering the window doesn't necessarily mean a grout joint has to run through the centre.
You can split a tile through the centre. so a column of tiles run centrally through the window, which would give equal cuts either side. or, in this instance, "fuller" cuts. eliminating any grout joint down the left and right hand sides.

 

[peterwhayward]

centering the window doesn't necessarily mean a grout joint has to run through the centre.
You can split a tile through the centre. so a column of tiles run centrally through the window, which would give equal cuts either side. or, in this instance, "fuller" cuts. eliminating any grout joint down the left and right hand sides.

You misunderstand me. I am saying that if the tile (not the grout joint) was centred in the window then the cuts either side of the wall below the window would be unequal. His client by the sound of it would have disliked that also.

 

[Rossymcg]

The Window reveals are at eye level and the 1st thing you see when walking in, the the un even grout lines stand out awfully, I'd be pretty un happy seeing the uneven lines on such a small back wall either side of the window, if it were my cloak room id be taking the tiles off and re doing it,
if I'm in a situation where it could be done more than one way, I'm not the one to be making that decision and always ask the customer what they prefer

 

[peterwhayward]

The window being the first thing you see when walking into a toilet is a matter of opinion. In a previous post mrct says that when he left the customer was very happy and was going to pay (by bacs) and that she had been watching the progress of the job over a couple of days.If the loo and very large flush were "off centre" to a tile many people would or could say that they are the first thing you see when walking in. I just feel that to give mrct a "guilty" verdict is a little harsh as he obviously thought he was doing the right thing. Sounds to me like a third party may have cast a critical eye over the finished job and provoked her into going back on her "promise to pay".
Jeez I have two 40 dwelling privately owned residential homes that I have the maintenance contract for and for every job I do there is 79 different opinions on how I could have done it better.
Stick to your guns mrct and get paid for a good job.