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Hey guys, just been out to measure up and price for a job.
It's a full bathroom, en-suit, enclosed shower cubicle in one corner of the room, going to have toilet and basin, but they will be out of the room thankfully
The shower cubicle they want in mosaiq, they are ceramic stone effect 5cm x 5cm, 5mm deep, so they arn't fiddly little things, in all 7.3 sqm.
Surrounding bathroom walls and window etc they want using 33.3cm x 33.3cm ceramics, 5mm deep, all walls and cut ins work out at 17sqm.
The flooring is also the same ceramic 33.3cm x 33.3cm tiles as they are having on the walls, and flooring comes to 3.4sqm.
Floor is simple floor boards, so I need to ply that out too.
They also have a strip of underfloor heating mat, the heating mat is 6.5 meter x 0.5 meter.
I have never done underfloor heating before, so any advise on that would be good, like can it be cut to size or what have you ?
All walls are simple stud, but the boards don't look in a brilliant condition really, there are small holes here and there nearly fist size and still obviously have quite a bit of old tile adhesive stuck too them, some bits you can prise off and mostly the rest you can't.
Around half or more of the walls have had a light skim of plaster then painted, so Im my view I think the whole room could do with being dot n babbed with new boards first as I couldn't be sure the original boards that have the old adhesive left on them will hold these larger tiles, even more so with the painted walls.
Also this will give me a well nice backing to tile straight onto with no worries about them comming away from the walls.
On top of this they want to use mosaiqs as a border going all the way around the room at a certain height aswell to break it all up so that roughly a 10-12 cm strip of them all the way around, so the sqm of mosaiq will be a bit higher than the shower cubicle.
They have had a guy a month or so back who said he could do "EVERYTHING", remove full bathroom, install new shower, all electrics, flooring and tiling, they had paid him £1500 to do the job lot, and all that's been done is remove old suit, place new suit in the room "nothing fixed in yet, put bare shower tray in on legs and left it, put holes in walls everywhere, pipes sticking out in all directions from the shower area, wiring coming out at all would be socket points, the rooms a mess, and now he's done a runner.
They do have quite a lot of materials though, 195 of the floor and wall tiles, around 5 boxes of the large mosaiqs, think theres 12 to a box, so thats 60 of them, so I don't think I would run short, but there is a lot of cuts around the window etc.
For the underfloor heating mat they have a 20kg bag of SETAFLEX rapid FTA, oh and 2 tubs of Mapie Grip D1, :happy: which somehow I don't think will be enough, lol
So for the walls, I'll try and post some pics from my phone to show you what they are like and so on.
So, what do you guys think, and what advise can you give me.
Personally my thoughts are, tell the customer the whole room needs boarding out first.
Before I can fully tile the shower cubicle area, the shower needs to be fitted in and wired up ect by a plumber\ sparky.
Not really sure on adhesive, are the wall and floor tiles just about breaking over the size wise to go from say Bal white star, or this Mapiegrip D1 and onto a cementous adhesive ? for the walls ?
Floor I would ply out, lay the adhesive then heat mats then flexi adhesive then tile onto ??
Sorry for waffling on, but this is quite a major job and would appreciate your proffesional wisdom on this one, firstly on what I have suggested, and also...... what the hell would you quote for on this ?
Thanks.
It's a full bathroom, en-suit, enclosed shower cubicle in one corner of the room, going to have toilet and basin, but they will be out of the room thankfully
The shower cubicle they want in mosaiq, they are ceramic stone effect 5cm x 5cm, 5mm deep, so they arn't fiddly little things, in all 7.3 sqm.
Surrounding bathroom walls and window etc they want using 33.3cm x 33.3cm ceramics, 5mm deep, all walls and cut ins work out at 17sqm.
The flooring is also the same ceramic 33.3cm x 33.3cm tiles as they are having on the walls, and flooring comes to 3.4sqm.
Floor is simple floor boards, so I need to ply that out too.
They also have a strip of underfloor heating mat, the heating mat is 6.5 meter x 0.5 meter.
I have never done underfloor heating before, so any advise on that would be good, like can it be cut to size or what have you ?
All walls are simple stud, but the boards don't look in a brilliant condition really, there are small holes here and there nearly fist size and still obviously have quite a bit of old tile adhesive stuck too them, some bits you can prise off and mostly the rest you can't.
Around half or more of the walls have had a light skim of plaster then painted, so Im my view I think the whole room could do with being dot n babbed with new boards first as I couldn't be sure the original boards that have the old adhesive left on them will hold these larger tiles, even more so with the painted walls.
Also this will give me a well nice backing to tile straight onto with no worries about them comming away from the walls.
On top of this they want to use mosaiqs as a border going all the way around the room at a certain height aswell to break it all up so that roughly a 10-12 cm strip of them all the way around, so the sqm of mosaiq will be a bit higher than the shower cubicle.
They have had a guy a month or so back who said he could do "EVERYTHING", remove full bathroom, install new shower, all electrics, flooring and tiling, they had paid him £1500 to do the job lot, and all that's been done is remove old suit, place new suit in the room "nothing fixed in yet, put bare shower tray in on legs and left it, put holes in walls everywhere, pipes sticking out in all directions from the shower area, wiring coming out at all would be socket points, the rooms a mess, and now he's done a runner.
They do have quite a lot of materials though, 195 of the floor and wall tiles, around 5 boxes of the large mosaiqs, think theres 12 to a box, so thats 60 of them, so I don't think I would run short, but there is a lot of cuts around the window etc.
For the underfloor heating mat they have a 20kg bag of SETAFLEX rapid FTA, oh and 2 tubs of Mapie Grip D1, :happy: which somehow I don't think will be enough, lol
So for the walls, I'll try and post some pics from my phone to show you what they are like and so on.
So, what do you guys think, and what advise can you give me.
Personally my thoughts are, tell the customer the whole room needs boarding out first.
Before I can fully tile the shower cubicle area, the shower needs to be fitted in and wired up ect by a plumber\ sparky.
Not really sure on adhesive, are the wall and floor tiles just about breaking over the size wise to go from say Bal white star, or this Mapiegrip D1 and onto a cementous adhesive ? for the walls ?
Floor I would ply out, lay the adhesive then heat mats then flexi adhesive then tile onto ??
Sorry for waffling on, but this is quite a major job and would appreciate your proffesional wisdom on this one, firstly on what I have suggested, and also...... what the hell would you quote for on this ?
Thanks.
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