Rough so called tiler.

[DHTiling]

yet again i come across a job done by a short course muppet... not only that he still under cuts and wins jobs over me.. he turns out this $hite he calls tiling.

Just tiled a kitchen splash and the very nice lady of the house asked if i could have a look and give me opinion on some work she has had done in her bathroom/wetroom ..

Well i looked and it was not pretty , turns out she used to live in sedgefield , a local village to me and this is the reason for using this so called tiler as he lives in said village..

Why oh why do peeps continue to employ these so called tradesmen i hear you ask ... mostly it is because they can talk a good job from reading forums like this as this so called tiler was a very regular member on here but left when i had to re-tile a bathroom he fluffed up 19 months back but they cannot turn out the work quality that their mouths spout..



Rant over...:smilewinkgrin:

 

[andy8758]

I understand your feelings about being under cut Dave, especially as the "tradesman" is rubbish and ripping people off. I was asked to quote to "repair" a wet room in a home for young people with high dependency needs. I found that the tiling (8x10 white ceramics) was done without any tanking or otherwise waterproofing the sub strata. The bottom two rows of tiles were already falling off. This home was strapped for funds and wanted me to quote for "a cheap quick repair." The tiling had been completed 2 years previously by a local tiling company with over 30 years of trading. I was disgusted at the standard of work, told the manager that the only option was a complete re-tile which of course they could not afford - so I suggested they go back to the original tilers.... My point - a muppet tiler is a muppet whether they trained for 5 weeks or 5 years. There are some very experienced cowboys out there but it is also clear that you and a number of others here on this forum who have traded all their career as tilers are exceptionally good at all aspects of the trade and set the highest standards. You are right to highlight sub-standard work and its a shame nothing more seems to get done to root out the rot from the tiling industry.

 

[DHTiling]

I only said short course muppet as this bloke is exactly that , 4 days plumbing and 4 days tiling , then straight out doing peeps full bathrooms.

 

[andy8758]

That's pretty incredible. Unless this guy has some background its a worry that he is trading as a bathroom fitter after 4 days training in each skill. I believe the big problem with many short courses is they clearly offer students the view they can set up in business the day after their course finishes - business and marketing advice for "your" tiling business seems to be included in nearly all the 4 -8 week courses. I don't blame you and the other guys who took the long route looking at the whole short course business with a lot of concern. However, as many of us had no choice but to take a short course, I will always stand our corner in general but I don't tolerate poor workmanship - from anyone.

 

[Diamond Pool Finishers]

It is my belief that these guys who do courses should be made by law to work with a real tiler for a minimum of two years after the course ,then must have several jobs checked out by an instructor ..... minimum as all we ever hear about at the moment is these guys ruining the reputation of all tilers really ,Mud sticks ............

 

[DHTiling]

I understand that , i truly do and we have some real good tilers on here who came from the short route but do have a good eye for detail but bloke came from tool making or summit along those lines , so zilch experience in any trade..

This bathroom had 50mm of clear Silicon spread up the shower screen where it met the Altro floor... :yikes:

 

[Andy Allen]

who was it then...?

 

[DHTiling]

who was it then...?

Not sure whether you know him but >>> Creative Tiling - Tiling and Plumbing Services in the North East ...

 

[DHTiling]

reading his testimonials , those are self wrote :lol: .. trust me on that..🙂

 

[Spud]

Slick website

 

[DHTiling]

Slick website

Good enough to dupe potential customers..

 

[Bubblecraft]

Exactly what I thought. Site is better looking than his work lol

 

[John Benton]

Slick website

Exactly what I was thinking Gary - Dave do the pictures reflect the quality of his work or do you reckon they have been nicked?

 

[On one]

Some sign writing I saw on a van driven by a known short course botcher......Plastering,Tiling and WELDING undertaken!

 

[DHTiling]

Exactly what I was thinking Gary - Dave do the pictures reflect the quality of his work or do you reckon they have been nicked?

There is no gallery to speak of and I am really honest in saying his tiling is one for the rogues thread c

 

[John Benton]

There is no gallery to speak of and I am really honest in saying his tiling is one for the rogues thread c

So he's a fraud as well then?

 

[DHTiling]

So he's a fraud as well then?

Oh yes , but let me plz stress , i am not one for slagging local trades but this guy creamed this forum for info and then talks the job but cannot tile to his , I quote master standards.

 

[John Benton]

Problem is Dave, before the Internet and company websites, people used to go and see tradesmens work. I still tell people that they can look at my customers work as well as showing them my portfolio, although because most of my work is recommendation then they have seen my work already, so half the battle is won.

 

[DHTiling]

I know all areas have them but it is not good to see customers faces when they are distraught at
Tiling these wannabes turn out.

 

[jonnyc]

Slick website

There is a lot of competition out there ,some is legit and other not so.
it is always a task to work out who is a potential threat or not.
especially if you have not had to compete in yesteryears.
i have had some quite farcical quotes in last two years to compete with but if a client tells me they have a better quote I state that I want to see that quote .

 

[John Benton]

There is a lot of competition out there ,some is legit and other not so.
it is always a task to work out who is a potential threat or not.
especially if you have not had to compete in yesteryears.
i have had some quite farcical quotes in last two years to compete with but if a client tells me they have a better quote I state that I want to see that quote .

To compare quotes they need to be apples for apples, cos if the competition is much cheaper there's always a reason!!

 

[widler]

To compare quotes they need to be apples for apples, cos if the competition is much cheaper there's always a reason!!

There's always the other side as well John,expensive does not mean quality ,you can pay for fish eggs but it ain't caviar !

 

[John Benton]

There's always the other side as well John,expensive does not mean quality ,you can pay for fish eggs but it ain't caviar !

You're spot on there, but surely then it's down to the customer to make sure they check the tradesman out prior to any order given/work commencing, so they can be equally to blame.

 

[widler]

You're spot on there, but surely then it's down to the customer to make sure they check the tradesman out prior to any order given/work commencing, so they can be equally to blame.

True mate,it's a vicious circle it is

 

[jonnyc]

There's always the other side as well John,expensive does not mean quality ,you can pay for fish eggs but it ain't caviar !

Well that's quite true.never thought about that.

 

[andy8758]

True mate,it's a vicious circle it is

Just seen your new avatar. Village People will not be impressed. :lol:

 

[Time's Ran Out]

John seems to have upset you Dave!

 

[DHTiling]

John seems to have upset you Dave!

Upset ..? .. TJ you look a customer in the face as tears roll down their cheeks when they show you what he has done..

Do you condone this..?

 

[The Legend; Phil Hobson RIP]

I can't stand pretenders, I meet them every day in tile shops/ builders merchants etc. They all talk a good job, but when it comes to walking the walk rather than talking the talk, they can't hack it.

I remember a trader local to me who had his van sign written as follows: ......... ........Ltd, General builder, plumber, plasterer, joiner, kitchen fitter, tiler, painter and decorator, roofing specialist, landscape gardener, ground worker, bouncy castles, childrens parties,(Dan Dan the magic man).

Come on this guy must have spent £1,000.00 to have his van written up, why can't we just stick to what we know?

I am just a tiler, I can do a little of most trades, but I am a tiler, so tiling is what I do.

 

[DHTiling]

I can't stand pretenders, I meet them every day in tile shops/ builders merchants etc. They all talk a good job, but when it comes to walking the walk rather than talking the talk, they can't hack it.

I remember a trader local to me who had his van sign written as follows: ......... ........Ltd, General builder, plumber, plasterer, joiner, kitchen fitter, tiler, painter and decorator, roofing specialist, landscape gardener, ground worker, bouncy castles, childrens parties,(Dan Dan the magic man).

Come on this guy must have spent £1,000.00 to have his van written up, why can't we just stick to what we know?

I am just a tiler, I can do a little of most trades, but I am a tiler, so tiling is what I do.

Dan dan the magic man :lol:

 

[strummerman]

I only said short course muppet as this bloke is exactly that , 4 days plumbing and 4 days tiling , then straight out doing peeps full bathrooms.

Now you tell me after he did that bathroom