SLC over a large floor prior to tiling

[Italy]

I do not understand, that tilers are these?
a serious tiler, he should call someone, to level the floor, if it is not capable !!!.
Instead, the client the delegation to level the floor.
Then, if there are problems ....., all wash their hands, like Pontius Pilate.
this trend is inconceivable for me.

 

[Time's Ran Out]

It is for most of us Antonio. From the start we would question why his Tilers didn't want to level it. Obviously not capable of doing the whole job and are just looking for excuses when they mess it up!

 

[CheshireChap]

It is for most of us Antonio. From the start we would question why his Tilers didn't want to level it. Obviously not capable of doing the whole job and are just looking for excuses when they mess it up!

Or they were being honest enough to say it's too much for them? I much prefer this approach.

 

[Unused Account 1]

Just the guy who was on the private site i was on actually made the floor almost level 1 to 2 mm ,but hehas been doing it 30 years lol,dont know what hes like after 6 mince pies lol

 

[Time's Ran Out]

If you believe that then you should also be thinking that the tiling is too much for them, or do you think that we as a finishing trade are superficial.

 

[Unused Account 1]

Just shows how poor the original floors are on a lot of new builds ,your right though john

 

[CheshireChap]

If you believe that then you should also be thinking that the tiling is too much for them, or do you think that we as a finishing trade are superficial.

I've been to see the job they did for a well known sports club owner. He had 100m2 of 1 m2 tiles done, the exact same ones as we are having, albeit on a smaller scale!! It is absolutely faultless.

So many negative replies on here. All I did was ask for names of a company who could do it and a lot of you guys are ripping my Tiler's to shreads!

 

[Unused Account 1]

Its the floors that are hard to get flat not your tilers mate

 

[One Day]

I've worked exclusively for high-end domestic clients all over the north-west for over a decade, and i can't think of any company who i would be happy to recommend. The honest answer i would give you is that the tilers should WANT to level it personally.
If they know a firm that can do it for them, please let me have their details!

[/QUOTE]So many negative replies on here. All I did was ask for names of a company who could do it and a lot of you guys are ripping my Tiler's to shreads![/QUOTE]

 

[Old Mod]

you guys are ripping my Tiler's to shreads!

Your tilers are not being ripped to shreads, their ability is being questioned, there's a difference.

You have come on to a professional tiling forum, not Yell.

Whilst it's not unreasonable for you to believe that this would be the ideal place to source such a company, as you have found out, the practice of getting a separate company to level your floor first is deemed highly unusual by many professionals.

We have some of the best tiling professionals in the country on here, and you've been talking to some of them.
So from our perspective, it seems a little odd, and from what I've read so far, I'd say these members were more looking out for you, rather than
"Ripping them to shreads" as you put it.
Whilst I could agree they could be construed as negative comments, in reality they're not. They're actually sound opinions, in the most part.

From my point of view, for what it's worth, it means one of two things;
1. That they're not capable of such a task, which isn't acceptable if they're being charged with laying extra large format tiles.
As a professional fitter of this type of product, you must be able to do the job from very start, to the very finish.
This is what allows you the privilege of charging special rates to undertake a project of this nature.

2. They just can't be bothered with the hassle and just want a fast buck.
This doesn't exactly install confidence either.
These materials incurr a high investment in to a home, and I'm sure you only want it doing once.
It would make me question their morals as professionals.
What sort of aftercare would you receive in the event of a problem?

You said earlier;

in the words of our tiler, done a good job with the screed. It's just not good enough for 1m2 tiles.

To be honest, if they appreciate to what standard your floor needs to be, I personally think it's a pretty safe bet that they should be more than capable of carrying out this task.
Unless of course they're on a tight schedule and that they're either using delaying tactics, or they're gonna try rush it in between two jobs, and they just want to take the cream!
I personally think none of those scenarios are acceptable.
But as always, it's only an opinion, and as we're all painfully aware, we all have one.

That notwithstanding, as John mentioned, this doesn't address the original post from CheshireChap,
And I'm sure by now he is very aware of our opinions,
So if any one can help with a suggestion,it'd be appreciated.

 

[CheshireChap]

3_fall, thank you for the summary, I mean that sincerely.

I hadn't appreciated the connection between preparation and actual laying.

I'll start the search again, someone to do the whole job.

To the rest of the respondents, my thanks to you too.

 

[John Benton]

If you have seen the the work carried out at the owner of well known sports clubs property, and you say the work is perfect, either:-

a) The tiles were fixed by your tilers directly onto the floor that was already there, or
b) They had someone in to level the floor prior to fixing

I suspect it's the former, otherwise they could find out who levelled the floor prior to fixing.

I don't understand why they are avoiding carrying the task out from start to finish. If it was me I would want the prep as near as level as is humanly possible.

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Nice post Marc and I agree with every word - it's just we read so many issues on here about 'tilers' who have done a shoddy job from customers and then you get an opportunity to advise and apparently it's all negative!
In this case the Tilers are the best thing since sliced bread yet they are not up to levelling a floor for 1m tiles!
In a nutshell no decent tiler would suggest getting another company in to prepare a substrate - unless they could have recommended someone - and the OP isn't going to take any of our advise.
As mentioned use Yell.com and see if the 2 trades guarantee each other's work.
Good luck Mr Chappie

 

[CheshireChap]

Nice post Marc and I agree with every word - it's just we read so many issues on here about 'tilers' who have done a shoddy job from customers and then you get an opportunity to advise and apparently it's all negative!
In this case the Tilers are the best thing since sliced bread yet they are not up to levelling a floor for 1m tiles!
In a nutshell no decent tiler would suggest getting another company in to prepare a substrate - unless they could have recommended someone - and the OP isn't going to take any of our advise.
As mentioned use Yell.com and see if the 2 trades guarantee each other's work.
Good luck Mr Chappie

Mr Timeless Johnney, I presume you didn't read my reply else you wouldn't of written such a sarcastic reply.

 

[WetSaw]

Mr Timeless Johnney, I presume you didn't read my reply else you wouldn't of written such a sarcastic reply.

Oh I can assure you he would, but with his level of skill and experience I think he's being more frank than sarcastic.