sometimes you just have to say "No"

[Dougs Third Go]

doing some plastering work at what is going to be a hairdressing salon, and they asked me to quote for the 30m2 floor. Existing is suspended timber floor, deflection free, so I quoted for NMP etc, the hairdressers were happy to go with it but the building landlord won't, even though he's not paying for it. He wanted to go down the 6mm ply route so if in future somebody else took over the lease they wouldn't be stuck with a tiled floor that would be problematic to rip out, I gave him all the reasons why I wouldn't do this and he came back with (after speaking to tile supplier) 6mm ply and then the NMP and was left flummoxed when I still said no. Sometimes you've just got to walk away from what is potentially a good earner....rant over.

 

[Ian]

It's the right thing to do every time. Seems crazy that people still won't listen to expert advice, despite all the horror stories being very public nowadays, with social media and all the cowboy programmes. Maybe he'll see sense and be back on the phone soon.

 

[Dougs Third Go]

the thing is Bri, the hairdressers have already ordered the tiles, £1,200 worth, I've no doubt somebody will do it, but unless it's my way it won't be me.

 

[CJ]

Bet he'll find a jack of all to do it........then wonder why it's all coming up in 6 months.

 

[Ian]

the thing is Bri, the hairdressers have already ordered the tiles, £1,200 worth, I've no doubt somebody will do it, but unless it's my way it won't be me.

Imagine the foot traffic in there, how long before they start to go pop on the ply? A few weeks maybe?

 

[Colour Republic]

TBF the landlord has a point. You have no idea how long is left on the lease.

If there is a change of use where the floor has to come up either to be changed for something else or access services then NMP and its respective glue causes a right mess when coming up and the costs to rectify increase where the subfloor might need to be replaced too.

not suggesting you should tile on to 6mm ply but you can understand his reluctance in putting a bombproof floor covering down. Also keeping in mind commercial properties don't need floors to last 30 years as many are refurbed or change hands within 5 years.

Maybe the way to go was with 18mm ply. I've put blue tape over the screw heads before when I think there is a chance the floor will come up in the near future so it's easy enough to remove and put the floor back in its original condition.

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Unless I'am missing something the landlords preparation was 6mm plywood better than yours! Good timber floor - no deflection - 6mm plywood overlay - NMP fixed to plywood - tiling.
But at the end of the day it's your job or not Doug.

 

[Rookery]

Unless I'am missing something the landlords preparation was 6mm plywood better than yours! Good timber floor - no deflection - 6mm plywood overlay - NMP fixed to plywood - tiling.
But at the end of the day it's your job or not Doug.

Yes that's how I read it.

 

[Sean Page]

Yes that's how I read it.

Same here

 

[Dougs Third Go]

tongue and groove floor planks with all the cups and crowns inherent with it, there's no way I'm touching it with 6mm plywood

 

[Sean Page]

Sorry Doug, that cleared it up and I wouldn't touch it with 6mm either :mad2:

 

[Time's Ran Out]

But it's 6mm plywood as a underlay to the NMP, that would take out some of the undulations and make it stronger now and easier to remove in the future.

 

[Dougs Third Go]

But it's 6mm plywood as a underlay to the NMP, that would take out some of the undulations and make it stronger now and easier to remove in the future.

it's still 9mm shy of BS guidelines though TJ and you're still going to get voids between the planks and the ply, but as I stated, somebody will probably be happy to do it but I don't drink enough horlicks :lol:

 

[The D]

I would do it in a hart beat and not loose a any sleep over it.

 

[Dougs Third Go]

I'm gonna do it, with 18mm wbp screwed at 150mm, so that's 1,870 screws and use an S2 adhesive.

 

[On one]

I'm gonna do it, with 18mm wbp screwed at 150mm, so that's 1,870 screws and use an S2 adhesive.

Sounds like a job for a collated screw gun.

 

[SJPurdy]

twice as many screws as BS. I don't suppose you'll be putting a bit of tape over each screw head to stop them getting bunged up with addy - just to make it less problematic to rip out in the future!!!!

 

[Perry]

only if you stuck it down with adhesive John. But its a lot of work to add more timber IMO

 

[Dougs Third Go]

another twist in the floorgate saga this morning...landed on the job to find that the self-appointed foreman, (joiner) had cancelled customers 18mm wbp and ordered up 9mm instead and said that he's doing it (the ply), so I told him he'll have to do the tiling as well. I told him a few more "words" too

 

[On one]

I have a certain Iron Maiden song ringing in my ears......''Run for the Hills''