Tanking law..

[cornish_crofter]

It works well in other countries so why not this one..?..

anymore views..?

Which countries are those Dave? Maybe we could look for some guidance on the web published for those countries.

 

[DHTiling]

Which countries are those Dave? Maybe we could look for some guidance on the web published for those countries.

ones i know of are...

1 : usa....some states( need to check which ones )

2 : australia.....as mentioned by mick

3. Sweden ...as mentioned by sWe....

if anybody knows of more feel free to add them..

 

[oldgit]

personally i dont think it should have anything to with tilers on new builds,if regs require tanking or boarding with a water proofed product then fine but if i was a tiling contractor there is no way i would be guaranteeing water tight areas.,imagine the lawsuits cropping after a tray has dropped 10mm and the tilers get the blame.
in a domestic situation for me its down to the customer,but maybe insurance companies should refuse or reduce premiums if a shower is tanked or not tanked.
i think tanking is only part of the answer to the said problem.
to me its not the walls that are the issue its the sealing of wall and floors joints.
water imo does not attack wall or floor substrates unless it can get in from a joint and by joint i exclude the tile joint as this is miniscule.
by water proofing or tanking walls and floors you will only push the problem somewhere else.

 

[cornish_crofter]

Which countries are those Dave? Maybe we could look for some guidance on the web published for those countries.

Just found one

Austrailia

Waterproofing Bathrooms

This talks about their building code.

 

[White Room]

Mick the tiler will vouch for that

 

[oldgit]

Just found one

Austrailia

Waterproofing Bathrooms

This talks about their building code.

well that sounds a lot more sensible than some of the methods ive seen in this country.

 

[DHTiling]

well that sounds a lot more sensible than some of the methods ive seen in this country.

So good or bad then..?..

 

[oldgit]

So good or bad then..?..

i think that sounds fairly good,but to me you have to stop the water getting in in the first place,i dont have a solution to that but i do believe that in the uk much of what is now available is more about revenue than the real solution

 

[DHTiling]

I just think that something needs to change.....how far this change goes then that will need a lot of work.....we are seeing to many failures of installations in bathrooms etc and peeps claiming on house policies for damaged ceilings/walls due to minor water leaks/penetration...from up-stairs.....

keep the suggestions coming please...they are great...

 

[cornish_crofter]

The main problem is, as Wetdec said on the phone to me when I spoke to him about wetrooms, is that we have been demanding more flow rate from our showers.

20 years ago we would be lucky to get 2 litres a minute out of a shower. A few weeks ago I fitted 2 shower panels, each of which deliver 6 litres a minute, and that is relitively low these days.

So we're now getting up to 4 times the volume of water chucked at us when we're in the shower, no wonder things are getting desparate.

 

[oldgit]

I just think that something needs to change.....how far this change goes then that will need a lot of work.....we are seeing to many failures of installations in bathrooms etc and peeps claiming on house policies for damaged ceilings/walls due to minor water leaks/penetration...from up-stairs.....

keep the suggestions coming please...they are great...

the problem what is now called tanking in a shower or bath area probably wouldnt prevent this,new builds for a start move or shrink far too much,also floors upstairs are tiled far too early in new builds imo,without the correct precautions but this should not be a tiler responsibility.

 

[White Room]

I find it harder to convince plumbers than a customer, I have seen tilers of 30 years plus have leaks which were that bad they travelled to the neighbours house and were solid brickwork which I had to repair the plasterwork, Were not talking just a spot it was serious damage thru the wall over a time:mad2:

 

[DHTiling]

the problem what is now called tanking in a shower or bath area probably wouldnt prevent this,new builds for a start move or shrink far too much,also floors upstairs are tiled far too early in new builds imo,without the correct precautions but this should not be a tiler responsibility.

Then what solution do you think we could have to this..?


Maybe a set time allowing for shrinkage should be enforced in new builds....

anybody else got any ideas on this theory..?..

 

[oldgit]

maybe just maybe tiling is no longer the answer to showers etc:huh2:

 

[oldgit]

Then what solution do you think we could have to this..?


Maybe a set time allowing for shrinkage should be enforced in new builds....

anybody else got any ideas on this theory..?..

well at the minute the drying out time is good coz nobody is buying them