Tile onto tile

[Dan]

you always miss the interesting threads Dom... and notice how your post was number 69 :lol:

I noticed you notice! You little devil you. I knew owned red boots because you're kinky!

Edit: oops, sorry, didn't know Dom already mentioned it and that we'd already ended the discussion.

 

[bootsmckiber]

I still agree with Brian because I also have done it with no catastrophic results,I do this not at my own doing but usually to help the clients who can't afford to start from fresh,lets face it i,it is expensive.Now this doesn't happen all the time,in 27yrs I may have done it six times,always to help the client who just can't afford it,and yes it's nice to be so rich that you can walk into a place and if you don't like it say no I'm not doing it,but times were different twenty years ago,a job was a job you play the hand your dealt to the best of your capabilities,when you have 5,6,7or 8 mouths to feed you sometimes take what you can get,Everytime I did a tile on tile my clients were more than happy with my work and the money I saved them,like I said,twenty years ago the rules and codes weren't quite as strict,And another point,I've read a lot of tiling books over the years and most of them say it might not be the best way but it can be done,to many greenhorns on the goody two shoes wagon,chin up Brian,don't quit,go with what works for you.

 

[mikethetile]

are you talking walls or floors boots

 

[bootsmckiber]

Floors,I wouldn't do walls just because of the sheer weight factor,gravity is totally not on your side.

 

[mikethetile]

thank you Boots

im in total agreement with you, whats the worse that can happen if a floor tile debonds . theres no risk and as long as the client is aware that this may happen then they carry the expense of putting it right not you, and as you say if funds are tight then its a gamble worth taking

walls are a different ball game

 

[Scott]

Like this you mean? Gotta love a bit of tile on tile.

This little beauty was onto paramount plasterboard too and left by another bathroom fitter. He was going to takethe top layer off and tile over the base tiles with 600x300 ceramics. Amateur!

Luckily i had a customer who listened to the adivce she was given and with the TF as a back up to clarify anything i told her the whole room had now been finished to the correct standard.

 

[steve187]

As long as the new tiles are not too big/heavy and the original tiles are well fixed, no hollow sounding tiles when tapped, you should be ok.

 

[The D]

As long as the new tiles are not too big/heavy and the original tiles are well fixed, no hollow sounding tiles when tapped, you should be ok.

did you look at the pic above your post m8??? if you did and your advice still stands then all i can say is head em up move em out.:mad2::mad2:

 

[jay]

think were talking floors Deno
right tiling over existing wall tiles is stupid (weight issues ect)
tiling over existing floor tiles on timber sub is stupid too
tiling over floor tiles on a concrete slab can be done providing they are solid no cracks not stone or slate and the correct prep work is done

thats why adh is made to tile over tiles

 

[steve187]

did you look at the pic above your post m8??? if you did and your advice still stands then all i can say is head em up move em out.:mad2::mad2:

no picture above my post when i posted. i had the thread open a long while before i replied. seems i didn't get to the last post before replying,

 

[doug boardley]

As long as the new tiles are not too big/heavy and the original tiles are well fixed, no hollow sounding tiles when tapped, you should be ok.

Steve, it doesn't matter how well the existing tiles are fixed, substrates will only bear so much weight before it loses it's structural integrity. "The straw that broke the camels back" and all that.

 

[david campbell]

whats the point doug!
no matter how many times you tell some people or give them advice they will go ahead anyway!
what do you know mate you've only been tiling for god knows how many years and your experience is always going to be questioned by someone who "knows" better

 

[mikethetile]

if I see 75mm or 100mm tiles as in scottleys post I just assume they have been dotted as invariably they were, I also believe that the dotting of small format tiles led to the bad practice of dotting 150mm up

a little knowledge is a dangerous thing

 

[diamondtiling]

It amazes me that some tilers still think its ok to tile onto existing tiles "so long as they are stuck well and dont sound hollow when tapped"

Have these guys got xray vision or something, or do they just rely on their knuckles to test the integrity of someone elses's past work?

If these people have public liability insurance then they should save themselves some money and cancel it because if something did fail and they were sued then they would not have a leg to stand on.

 

[jay]

nope dont have xray vision