tiler in london,whats the pay and wages like?thanks

[worriedpete]

hi there im peter

im looking for a new career and i was told tiling has abit of potential in it
i have talked to bricks and plumbers and they reckon there is just no work and crappy pay in it
they said i should try tiling,what sort of wages are tilers in london on?


Thanks guys

Peter

 

[Ian]

We can't discuss pricing in the open forums Peter, but other members are welcome to discuss it with you via PM. What tiling training so you have currently?

 

[kilty55]

hi pete,you will find most trades are not earning full potential just now due to the climate.......

 

[Diamond Pool Finishers]

:welcome: to the forum peter food is where the money is IMO mate

 

[Dan]

Or life and death as those trades seem to keep on going.

Baby stuff or black suits.

 

[Spud]

The market is flooded at the moment

 

[White Room]

What experiance have you had....

 

[Dan]

I went over Ireland not long ago and get on with a family there. They're businessmen, ran a very big business that took a big hit in 2008, like all of us no doubt. And they've changed their ways to fit with the current climate and are taking what we have now as a given, assuming it will never get better. I was saying it should get better. They said don't bother and stop saying 'in this climate' which is what I kept saying.

They said treat now as the given and the way things are. And should thinks ever boom again then you get a bonus.

Still in two minds as to whether it'll get better or not but I am now taking this as it is. Whatever works about now. That's probably the amount of work that will be about for a while.

 

[Dan]

I should probably say welcome aboard too as I don't think i have before.

 

[kilty55]

i agree dan...not being pesimistic bu ti think this is no longer a recession of sorts but the way it is now and will stay this way for the forseeable future

 

[White Room]

I went over Ireland not long ago and get on with a family there. They're businessmen, ran a very big business that took a big hit in 2008, like all of us no doubt. And they've changed their ways to fit with the current climate and are taking what we have now as a given, assuming it will never get better. I was saying it should get better. They said don't bother and stop saying 'in this climate' which is what I kept saying.

They said treat now as the given and the way things are. And should thinks ever boom again then you get a bonus.

Still in two minds as to whether it'll get better or not but I am now taking this as it is. Whatever works about now. That's probably the amount of work that will be about for a while.

What a great attitude to take....

 

[Dan]

i agree dan...not being pesimistic bu ti think this is no longer a recession of sorts but the way it is now and will stay this way for the forseeable future

I live in hope mate and all that. But I've read too many posts and heard too many people now to be thinking this is a short term thing like I used to think.

I think I have about 120,000 accounts on all these trade forums so I don't just see it from our 20k accounts here on TF. I keep reading it and reading it and reading it and it's starting to hit home now.

And the amount of mates I have saving for a mortgage is mental. Pretty much half my mates are saving, some of the rest struggling, some of the rest given up and are either with family, renting long-term, or just on their arses.

The good old days of negative equity and 105% mortgages are long gone. Who ever thought you could walk past a house for sale and own 5% of it's value without putting a penny down?!?!?! Seems like a pretend story now when I look back but it bloody happened and all the banks did them!

 

[Dan]

What a great attitude to take....

Ain't it.

They had a multi million pound electrical supplies business with about 30 trucks delivering all over UK and ireland. And now have just the warehouse, some stock, lots of drop-shipping, and a decent website.

He said I'm taking this as it is. This is what we earn and own now. And it's increasing so it's getting better. So if we do get a boom we're laughing, but right now we're secure. And that's the main thing.

Very wise bloke and some say you can't respect what you've got until you've lost it all and had to gain it back. He's defo a bloke that respects what he's got.

 

[Discount Tile Supplies]

You need to strategize more and have a good strategy.

 

[kilty55]

i have accepted now in my mind this is how its going to be from now on,i feel better for it as im not stressing constantly about when its gonna change and can concentrate on the now more

 

[Diamond Pool Finishers]

well i 'am a pessimist ,and i don't think thing's are about to get better, if anything they are going to get a lot worse ,before they ease , you only have to look at the mess we are in!!

 

[Dan]

I think it's all about the unique selling points you have in the business, and the angles you take, and a lot to do with keeping your customers your own. As if they've done you well for the last 5 years, they're probably all about to have another job done now so it just goes around again.

The likes of rate-ya-sausage.com type websites all geared at pointing out the cheapest trader have a lot to do with customers expectations.

I bet you lads know more than I do that some of these customers have got the cheaper one in, but could have quite happily paid the going rate had they not had that cheapo one quote, and the 7 quotes near the cheapest price.

 

[Dan]

well i 'am a pessimist ,and i don't think thing's are about to get better, if anything they are going to get a lot worse ,before they ease , you only have to look at the mess we are in!!

I hope it doesn't get worse mate as I'm stacked up to the eyeballs with websites I'm doing to help tradesmen, and to be honest not one is a paid-for one yet and wont pay for a long long time so I hope they work out for at least the guys I'm building them all for, you tradesmen!

If it gets worse I'll feel like I build even more and I need to start earning some money from some at some point.

 

[kilty55]

so pete,the best thing to do is stay put in your job atm!! lol

 

[2010]

Things will not stay the same, we have always had peaks and troughs and always will

I prefer things as they are than those crazy times of a boom, house prices going up by the day and people spending money they have not got trying to keep up with the jones's
I have focused on my business the last few years and enjoy work a lot more now

 

[Tony73]

alot of negativity here, i'm optimist i'm happy where i'm now. I make money for food (maby little bit more) and i'm happy, many people don't have even that. Proud to be a tiler, and do best (quality) i can. And i know things will get better. Good tradesman will allways have work, and rogue traders will have tea time- all the time.

 

[kilty55]

its not negativity its realism,it will change eventually im sure but for now no chance!

its not being negative dicussing it its actually a positive thing.

 

[Tony73]

welll sorry then :smilewinkgrin:, got it wrong