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Riker007

Have done tiling myself many times and never ever had this problem. For some reason tiles won't set properly on wall, two have fallen off and a lot of moisture is present. When pulling off spacers that are stubborn a tile might come off, that was two days ago but customer rang to tell me two tiles have fallen off allegedly on their own on the top row. I think they are ceramic tiles, can't tell difference between ceramic and porcelain as didn't buy them, can check packet when I go back! About 200mm by 300mm so not huge tiles. Wall was painted surface in cloakroom, used ready mixed adhesive as always and this time they appear not to have set. Used this stuff many times before and stuff always set nicely after even after a few hours. Half of tiling I used the Cerafix (?) adhesive, other half was Wickes own brand heavy duty stuff which from memory set better than the other stuff. Until I go back and have a better look, I'm told its the tiles that were used with the Cerafix stuff that haven't set. Is it feasable to remove these tiles if haven't set and reapply another adhesive so they won't fall off again? Or replace tiles also? Could it be damp from this one wall (though was bone dry) or is it a funny paint I've tiled onto?
No didn't use any primer, never had to before when tiling straight onto a wall. No brown biscuit backing either. Whats the remedy for the wall now if reappling tiles, assuming they won't set if I wait long enough?
 
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White Room

Did the tiles have a brown biscuit back, they would be ceramic. I would have used powdered ahesive for that size tile, if they were porcelain and the walls are painted it has no where for the moisture to dry the addy will dry on the edges but the middle will remain damp for a long time.
If the paint was a vinyl silk it will not take any moisture whatsoever
 
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White Room

In theory, given the situation, if left will the adhesive just set after time? Surely the grout will help sprevent them falling off, and in time, the adhesive will set and presto! U think?


No, the addy is dispersion and needs air to dry plus some suction from at least one surface.

No, the grout will not stop moisture penetrating, it's moisture resistant not waterproof and the addy can soften with the water.
 

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