Time Served Tiler's V.s New Tilers

[Dan]

I thought I'd think of a thread that would spark some interesting discussion and I thought of the title but not what I wanted the thread to be about so I thought I'd let your mind wonder.

There have been many topics related to 'are tiling courses flooding the market with tilers?' and 'is the tiling market saturated?' and 'why do I have to drop MY price?' etc etc.

I thought the topics may be being lead by a motive related to those used to charging the price they do and perhaps now cant, and those that are just working out the price they're worth / can get.

I'm not too sure what question to ask and hope you'll help me out. I'm guessing you (as you're reading it) could be the right person to think of the question.

All the best.

 

[brian c]

Are tiling courses saturating the market with tilers,this having an influence on the price of a job whether it be day rate or £m2?

 

[Fekin]

I think the question really is... can a flood of new tilers really affect a time served tiler.

In my opinion the answer is no.

If you are a successful time served tiler that's been in the game long enough to gain a good reputation, and have all the contacts you need in the building trade then I can't see how an influx of newly trained tilers can have any impact on you, as the type of people that comew to you for your services wouldn't probably ever consider employing a new guy to do the work for them.

Now if you just depend on an advert in the Yellow pages and the small time domestic market then you're going to be up against the new guys with low prices I think.

 

[brian c]

I Totally Agree With Everything You Have Said Adam.

 

[White Room]

Agree with what you say Fekin, I know a couple of tilers 30+ years never to be out of work they be quite sometimes but always working

 

[wetdec]

I think the question really is... can a flood of new tilers really affect a time served tiler.

In my opinion the answer is no.

If you are a successful time served tiler that's been in the game long enough to gain a good reputation, and have all the contacts you need in the building trade then I can't see how an influx of newly trained tilers can have any impact on you, as the type of people that comew to you for your services wouldn't probably ever consider employing a new guy to do the work for them.

Now if you just depend on an advert in the Yellow pages and the small time domestic market then you're going to be up against the new guys with low prices I think.

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[Saltire69]

I would say it's more new tiler V's newer tiler. The guy's that have been going a year or so and trying to build a rep. Old tilers won't have a problem as Fekin said.

 

[DHTiling]

A lot of the new tradesmen that i see advertising seem to be multi tasking....i.e..tiling/plumbing/joinery/painting etc.......not many just advertise tiling alone.....

Anybody else see this as well......maybe they should advertise as bathroom installation specilaists etc etc....I just think ,to just say they do a multitude of trades and that's it , no other discription then it makes them sound like handy men/women....

How do you advertise if you do more than one trade..?..

 

[GazTech]

The customers in todays domestic market, what with busy lifestyles and 100mph work loads and juggling family needs, don't want the hassle of dealing with 3 trades for new bathroom re-fit when one will do.....put yourself in that position if possible....Gaz

 

[DHTiling]

The customers in todays domestic market, what with busy lifestyles and 100mph work loads and juggling family needs, don't want the hassle of dealing with 3 trades for new bathroom re-fit when one will do.....put yourself in that position if possible....Gaz

What i mean gazza is.. you see advertisements in the local rags that just say they do tiling/plastering/painting/plumbing/joinery..etc etc...and no mention that they are some sort of bathroom business etc.....is it better to say you are.. say for instance "GW bathroom specialists" all aspects of bathroom installations ..including plumbing/tiling..etc..

Than to just say GW tiling/palstering/painting.etc...you get my drift.?....i think it makes peeps sound more like handymen....

So how do you lot who multi task on jobs advertise yourselves......

 

[GazTech]

If bathrooms is your main target area, then 'GW bathroom renovations' is far better to advertise than splitting the skills up individually, the name itself suggests the full package.

 

[tkm18]

Since before ive done this as a FT job we've never advertised for work, all word of mouth and recommendations.

As already mentioned, if your established you should be ok. Ive seen umpteen guys chuck their real job, do the 2 week wonder course then chuck it because they couldn't pick up the work or didnt realise its not as easy as it looks.

I think the current downturn in the economy is also adding to this debate as fewer people are buying/selling propertys.

I reckon once the economy calms down you'll see more people renovating their existing property rather the moving.

 

[Branty]

They seem to be doing that already in London.

 

[Fekin]

Yes.

I think it is far better to advertise yourself as the whole package rather than listing all the trades you do.

As you say Dave, it can make you sound like a handyman, which I see alot of people advertising themselves as these days.

 

[Tulsa]

I agree with both tkm and fekin.I have personally priced several jobs recently whereb the customers had stated that they had been planning on selling but due to the credit crunch.economic downturn that they were going to stay put and had decided on refurbishing their current property.As for fekins point,i think advertising plumber/plasterer/tiler/sparky/whatever looks really unproffesional and does make the person sound like a handyman,again i have priced jobs were i went to do a quote for tiling and when i got there the customer said that they were having a full bathroom installation at which point i asked would they like a quote for that as well as i offered that service as well.