Travertine-UFH=Decoupler? Aparently NOT..

I still cant beleve theres tilers out there still not using decouplers for jobs it would clearly benifit.

Just went to see a domestic Travertine job. I was the 6th tiler to see job so hed had a lot of info already. Its 50m2 of module travertine layed over the ground floor of a property running through 5 rooms.

It has wet ufh then chipboard and 15mm ply in place. So I recomended laying dural over ply and fixed with keraflex then laying tile onto bed of keraflex using half round flooring trowel and flexible grout, Reconed it take around 6 days start to finish.

But my price was more expensive than others because id priced in decoupler which at £9m2 makes a difference. I explained that due to there being a wet ufh system and laying a natural tile onto wooden sub that the dural would allow lateral movement of sub without stressing tile and grout.:thumbsup: But he said none of the tilers had heard of or mentioned it apart from one of them, the most expensive one had heard of it or knew what it was...

Am I way off or what:mad2: ?
 
Yeah but Kevin the customers happy to spend the xtra but was just questioning why no one else metioed it so ends up me looking stupid and not knowing what im talking about:mad2:
 
If he's happy to consider it, then send him to this forum and tell him to search on "decoupling membrane". Let him do his own research so that when he realises that the decoupler is a safety feature that will ensure the long life of his tile installation, you will have no issues.

Good luck.

However, I have experienced a number of Dural ci failures recently which have cost me significant financial losses, so I have stopped recommending it on my jobs. This is a personal choice and by no means a recommendation.

Daz
 
However, I have experienced a number of Dural ci failures recently which have cost me significant financial losses, so I have stopped recommending it on my jobs. This is a personal choice and by no means a recommendation.

Daz

I'm aware of a failure locally that they have stood the cost of (not one of my jobs) are you using an alternative decoupler?
 
In what way are the installations failing?
The one i mentioned is matting lifting away from substrate on an ufh screed - could be for one of many reasons but the matting suppliers have paid for the remedial work.
 
I recently looked at looked at a kitchen floor with a wet ufh , the tiles are travertine and have been down for about 6 years and there are cracks everywhere , no decoupling membrane was fitted...
 
Id of thought that as long as mat was bedded correctly to sub using a flexible adhesive that it would be of benefit but of course if the mats not bedded correctly then your in trouble.
Think I'd still use it as benefits are good, i think:lol:
 
I think the failures have been Dural specific when reported on the forums. Anyone heard of similar failures from Ditra?
 

Advertisement

Which tile adhesive brand did you use most this year?

  • Palace

    Votes: 9 5.2%
  • Kerakoll

    Votes: 17 9.9%
  • Ardex

    Votes: 12 7.0%
  • Mapei

    Votes: 49 28.5%
  • Ultra Tile

    Votes: 21 12.2%
  • BAL

    Votes: 40 23.3%
  • Wedi

    Votes: 4 2.3%
  • Benfer

    Votes: 5 2.9%
  • Tilemaster

    Votes: 24 14.0%
  • Weber

    Votes: 19 11.0%
  • Other (any other brand not listed)

    Votes: 17 9.9%
  • Nicobond

    Votes: 8 4.7%
  • Norcros

    Votes: 2 1.2%
  • Kelmore

    Votes: 5 2.9%
Back
Top

Click Here to Register for Free / Remove Ad