What is with other trades?

[John Benton]

Just been back today to fit a screen and a bit of siliconing on a wetroom I've done. Was looking great until I looked in the room this morning to see this mess all over the floor.



Plumber kindly burnt out 2x 6mm core drill bits of mine that I left there, to drill channel for the screen. He cut bigger holes in plasterboard for sink pipes and let debris fall on floor, drilled wall with my core bits and left mess down wall. Sparky comes in then and puts holes in ceiling for spotlights, doesn't think to catch falling plaster. Between them, they then use my bucket and sponge and wipe it all down forcing all wet plaster dust into my newly grouted floor. No dust sheets down, nothing.

I went ape with them, and asked who was going to pay me for having to clean it up again. I don't mind cleaning my own crap but not anyone elses', especially when they leave it on my new floor.

Rant over.

 

[Ian]

Lack of respect mate, I'd have made them clean it up.

 

[John Benton]

Lack of respect mate, I'd have made them clean it up.

Thing is Bri, they don't know how to clean up !!! It's always whoever is next in will clean up who was in lasts mess. Somehow it's always us as we finish off generally.

 

[REDSAW34]

depends if it was spotless in the first place:/
folk tend to leave as found/same as, if it were spotless then more care taken.

 

[system3]

Hi, I'm a mod from the plumbers forum, just dropped by to see what's happening.

Disrespect for anyones work is shocking and I know how you feel. Courtesy is free and should not be held to ransom as some do. Without stereotyping any trade, I always find that sparks are the messiest, must be because they mistakenly believe that they are top dog in the building industry and that cleaning up is beneath them.

By the way on every bathroom install, I carry a wetvac and wash down and clean up the job every day. Customers appreciate a clean and tidy job with minimum mess.

If I was you mate, I'd send them the bloody bill!



*Hi Redsaw, you over here visiting too?!!!

 

[Ian]

Have they been subbied in by you, or are they separate? I've been tiling a floor before and the sparks were fitting the sockets and lights, they were letting all the wire ends drop onto the floor and fall into the ungrouted joints! I used some blue language that day!

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depends if it was spotless in the first place:/
folk tend to leave as found/same as, if it were spotless then more care taken.

Arent you meant to be going to the cinema? :lol:

 

[REDSAW34]

thats just petty.imo
surly you vac it out before grouting?

no, we've cancelled on the basis of knackerd!. looking for some home entertainment instead.lol

 

[John Benton]

depends if it was spotless in the first place:/
folk tend to leave as found/same as, if it were spotless then more care taken.

Yeah I generally leave my floors like that and then I tell the customer not to pay me as it's shoddy workmanship and I wouldn't pay for work like that!!!!

It was tiled by a tiler not a plumber :smilewinkgrin:

 

[On one]

Total lack of respect and you have my every sympathy. A few weeks ago I left a bathroom floor grouted in beige in pristine condition, returned a few weeks later after the sparky had been in to alter the downlighters.....floor absolutely manky with black soot ie no dust sheets!

 

[REDSAW34]

Hi, I'm a mod from the plumbers forum, just dropped by to see what's happening.

Disrespect for anyones work is shocking and I know how you feel. Courtesy is free and should not be held to ransom as some do. Without stereotyping any trade, I always find that sparks are the messiest, must be because they mistakenly believe that they are top dog in the building industry and that cleaning up is beneath them.

By the way on every bathroom install, I carry a wetvac and wash down and clean up the job every day. Customers appreciate a clean and tidy job with minimum mess.

If I was you mate, I'd send them the bloody bill!



*Hi Redsaw, you over here visiting too?!!!

you was.lol!!

 

[Dan]

Just been back today to fit a screen and a bit of siliconing on a wetroom I've done. Was looking great until I looked in the room this morning to see this mess all over the floor.

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Plumber kindly burnt out 2x 6mm core drill bits of mine that I left there, to drill channel for the screen. He cut bigger holes in plasterboard for sink pipes and let debris fall on floor, drilled wall with my core bits and left mess down wall. Sparky comes in then and puts holes in ceiling for spotlights, doesn't think to catch falling plaster. Between them, they then use my bucket and sponge and wipe it all down forcing all wet plaster dust into my newly grouted floor. No dust sheets down, nothing.

I went ape with them, and asked who was going to pay me for having to clean it up again. I don't mind cleaning my own crap but not anyone elses', especially when they leave it on my new floor.

Rant over.

They need telling off that's just unfair mate. They'd have been annoyed if it was their job and you messed it up.

 

[johnatjdl]

Yes I would have been well REMOVED off pal, yes sparkys - dustsheets do not go hand in hand. Two of my pals are sparkys and they just dont bother, only one good point, I have never had to buy any earth sleaving, I just pick theirs up, lol.

cheers John

 

[John Benton]

It's ok cos I noticed in the vanity unit that one of the plastic pipes moves ever so slightly when the water is turned on, so I've lodged a one of my snapped off bits of stanley blade behind it. Should be through it in a few weeks so plumber will get blame for the leak














Not really but I felt like doing that!! :mad2:

 

[Bubblecraft]

That's shocking mate. I'd hate that if it were me. Luckily when it comes to the other trades, it's me that does them so get all the mess out the road before any finishing work. That's total disrespect on your part. No sheets or anything just shows they have no care in their own work or a clients home.

 

[system3]

Well Red, if someone peed and pood all over a brand new installed toilet and it wasn't connected up to the water supply so couldn't flush, would that be unloved by all apart from the installer babe?

Working with different trades must have RESPECT or the job ends up in chaos.

 

[The D]

just take a dump in his tool box he will not do it again.

 

[system3]

just take a dump in his tool box he will not do it again.

Or do a dump in his chips and kid on it's a black pudding.....

 

[jlktiling]

The majority of Spark's ive found are just ignorant fuds.

Think they are gods gift to the building industry.

 

[Ceramico tiling]

I once worked with a hardcore stonefitter who told me the funniest story! Basically there were some disrespectful decorators who continuously stepped on his fresh tiles on one of his jobs. So he eventually "cracked" by placing his boot on the end of a 2x2 and putting bootprints all over their newly painted ceiling.:lol:

 

[Martino]

No respect at all...disgusting!......leki's are all the same imo too!.....I would have told the customer to be fair.......i was fitting a kitchen a few months ago and the customers hired a leki to fit some new sockets in there living room.....he turned up 3 hours late..... straight into the living room...grinder, no dust sheet, didnt move the tv.....cream carpets!....yes the customers went pretty ape!!.....how STUPID can you actually get tho?

 

[Diamond Pool Finishers]

well years ago every site had general labourers ,now they have done away with them ,and they expect everyone to clean -up there own mess, these trades are so programmed into leaving mess for the labourers over the years its hard to re-train them so this is what you get!! mind -you your work was still trashed by others in them days ,i despair really !! i alway leave a clean job ready to be filled -up as that is the way i was taught over the years ,when on site if i leave the same thing happens to me ,sightseers and wall feelers ,sad -gits lol..........

 

[bugs183]

I agree the Sparky's are by far the worst trade on site.
It's stupid really as all their materials come in cardboard boxes, so why not leave one out under where they work, the rubbish is collected as they go. But no ,the boxes are never flattened, festooned everywhere and tails and plasterdust under every fitting.
My mate had a project and the sparky wouldn't tidy anything so he collected it all up, tails, plasterbits, boxes and dumped them all on inside his van.
:hurray:

 

[Andy Allen]

 

[Andy Allen]

what has doug started...lol

 

[John Benton]