what would you have charged?

[boldydave]

View attachment 25572View attachment 25571View attachment 25570View attachment 25569View attachment 25568hello all.just finished this job and was curious what you would have charged.it was 23 sq metres of ceramics.3 walls were nice and flat plasterboard or cement board,the fourth wall was plastered and not too flat so it took a bit longer.i charged £25 a square metre including all materials.that made me £450 profit(before tax) for 6 days work:yikes:.it`s not a lot i know,but i havn`t been going long so my speed is slow.the boxing in on the end of the bath slowed me down.nothing was square or level,but it all came out good in the end.if it makes any difference,i live in bristol.thanks for your help. dave.

 

[hillhead]

Looks good Dave, good rate IMO as i can't get near that over here.
Well done and don't worry about your speed, it'll come.

 

[Barry bp]

What happened to cut out round basin no spacer behind wc rad pipes not out of wall but the tiling is good i would want £700 inc addy plus vat and would take 3 days if that is any help to you i also would have wanted to tank shower at extra £100
I know you only did tiling its just me i get fussy with bathrooms

 

[The D]

if you have not been tiling long I think that's not bad. one question what is going on with the sink ?

 

[hillhead]

Badly fitted to unit by the looks, not good looking.

 

[Barry bp]

if you have not been tiling long I think that's not bad. one question what is going on with the sink ?

There is only a basin in pic

 

[boldydave]

thanks everybody.b and q fitted the bathroom,and messed up the cut to the sink.they are coming back to fix all the snags next week

 

[White Room]

A women I'm doing some work for next week has got B&Q doing the kitchen.

 

[spooner68]

Does the worktop needs to be cut back further to sit the basin in? The panel under it looks pre-cut. Tiling and finishing looks decent enough.

Pricing, about £700 inc materials, 3ish days. Speed is nothing without quality, don't worry about it too much yet I've seen work nowhere near as good done by allegedly experienced people in half the time. However, if you're still taking 6 days in a few months time you need to look at what you're doing as thats not a fantastic wage for 6 days. Have you done a tiling course?

 

[hillhead]

A kitchen i tiled a few months ago had a b&q kitchen, i had to remove the island from the room.
The whole lot was a mess from badly hung doors to bad edging,worktops etc.
Anyway i left the island in sunroom slightly disassembled.
I got a call a few days after i finished from b&q saying i had damaged the island removing it and they wanted £450 off me,lol.
I said not a hope and i have pics of the already shoddy workmanship in the kitchen so i'll fight you for the £450,lol.
I had and it was crap work, even the customer had them back 12 times !!!!!
As you can guess i had no money to pay.

 

[boldydave]

i did a course last year and have been tiling weekends/evenings since then.this job was great for me.lovely tiles,loads of space,nothing too fiddly,and i got bacon sarnies too! the time seemed to go on putting tiles on then taking them of again because of lippage.then when you take the tile off you get adhesive everywhere.i`m learning that if you can work cleanly then thats time well spent.

 

[boldydave]

the customer is less than impressed with b and q fitters.there was a long list of snags,a bad cut to the sink,a broken bath panel,flush didn`t work,they boarded the tops of the ends of the bath with 9mm plasterboard even though they new it was going to be tiled,plus it was way out of level. like everywhere,i`m sure you get good and bad ones.

 

[Colour Republic]

I'll tell you wants gone on with the basin. Some numpty scribed the panel forgetting to take into account the thickness of the worktop. Would have expected chrome tail pipes to the rad too.

What's gonna happen with the architrave too? Are your tiles flush with the door liner and the architrave is going to sit on top of the tiles or is it going to butt up to them?

Not too sure on price as didn't see the amount of prep needed before hawn but £450 is too cheap but if you're happy then it's all good. By the way you say it's was 23sqm @ £25 but that equals £575??

Looks a tidy job from the pics

 

[Mike]

the price doesn't seem too bad but as already said you need to be quicker to make a decent wage. the cut for the basin panels is horrendous but they are buggers to do, i,ve done a couple of them semi recessed basins and there's no margin for error at all

 

[spooner68]

i did a course last year and have been tiling weekends/evenings since then.this job was great for me.lovely tiles,loads of space,nothing too fiddly,and i got bacon sarnies too! the time seemed to go on putting tiles on then taking them of again because of lippage.then when you take the tile off you get adhesive everywhere.i`m learning that if you can work cleanly then thats time well spent.

Did you do the job over evenings and weekends? Bacon sarnies and decent coffee are usually reserved for people doing a good job and getting on well with the client. Looks like you've cracked the hard bit of the job already.

 

[boldydave]

colour republic got it spot on.they did forget to take the worktop into account.i can imagine his face after all the effort of getting that cut to the right profile,then holding it up against the sink. i did the job over 2 weekends and a few evenings which hours wise made up about 6 , 8 hour days. i charged the customer £600,but spent £150 on materials so got £450 profit.

 

[Ian]

The overall finish looks vey neat, 6 days isn't bad if you are newish to the game. You will find in a couple of years that you will half that and be able to do it in 3 days, thus making you a nice profit and a good wage.

 

[ad tiling]

Did anyone else notice the small fill in tile above the door frame? other than that nice work.

 

[boldydave]

that`s the pull cord on the light.it looks just like a grout line on the pics.

 

[ad tiling]

that`s the pull cord on the light.it looks just like a grout line on the pics.

My mistake on a closer look i see what you mean. good tiling, shame you had other trades messing up the look
good luck on your next job.

 

[spooner68]

i did the job over 2 weekends and a few evenings which hours wise made up about 6 , 8 hour days. i charged the customer £600,but spent £150 on materials so got £450 profit.

Just a thought here but you didnt make a profit of £450, that was your contribution to profit. In reality, and what a lot of people forget, is that you have overheads as well. You need to factor in the cost of paying for your van, diesel, insurance, road tax, servicing, mot, business insurance, tools, depreciation on tools equipment and van, phone costs, etc etc. Unless your van is paid for you probably have a weekly cost of £60 - £100 for all of that. More if like me you work in a larege rural area and do a lot of miles.

I worked mine out to £115. If your costs are similar then thats £335 you made before any tax and NI....... and don't say that you take cash and dont declare it. The black economy is a nightmare for quality tradespeople.

 

[boldydave]

good point spooner.i`m only part time and work from the boot of my car at the moment,but i can see how much more i`d need to earn to make a good living self employed.the time i stated didn`t include pricing the job,or collecting materials either.

 

[widler]

Just a thought here but you didnt make a profit of £450, that was your contribution to profit. In reality, and what a lot of people forget, is that you have overheads as well. You need to factor in the cost of paying for your van, diesel, insurance, road tax, servicing, mot, business insurance, tools, depreciation on tools equipment and van, phone costs, etc etc. Unless your van is paid for you probably have a weekly cost of £60 - £100 for all of that. More if like me you work in a larege rural area and do a lot of miles.

I worked mine out to £115. If your costs are similar then thats £335 you made before any tax and NI....... and don't say that you take cash and dont declare it. The black economy is a nightmare for quality tradespeople.

why is that then?

 

[spooner68]

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why is that then?

Cash only jobs, and ONLY cash jobs, no vat, no income tax..... Do I really need to explain?

 

[widler]

Cash only jobs, and ONLY cash jobs, no vat, no income tax..... Do I really need to explain?[/QUOT

well,if the fellow is working as well,which looking in to his posts, he is,he is paying tax in his other job spooner,
if he is dossing,getting his house paid for and everything else, then i totally agree with you mate.

but me,id rob these robbing bar attendents who run our country,as long as im paying my due,for as much as i can:smilewinkgrin:
it certinly don't mean im a bad person or tradesman