Which Adhesives to use in Bathroom - DIY Question

[lawrenso]

Hi All,

going to be starting tiling my bathroom in the next week or two.

I am leaving the Bath out and the tiles that would be immediately butting to the bath due to the bath needing exact setting for the side panel (not cuttable for the height) so will be laying at least one lot of floor tiles that will be under the panel. Also, less chance of dropping a tile and damaging the bath :joker:

Wife has chosen some tiles from CTD (New World or something like that) that are 30*60 for the wall and going to be laying them out horizontal - not brick bond though!!

Two walls are Wet Plastered, 2 are studded, and I will be tanking along the edges of the bath, and the corners with the Dunlop system (shower will only be used occaisionally, however kids use the bath all the time and water goes everywhere.

Walls will be tiled floor to ceiling, with two lines of mosaic glass beads going round all the room (one line low - the other high).

I will be battening out using laser level.

So, what would be the best addy to use for good grab, but workability - ie make, tubbed etc and what quantity to do 20 sq m

I also have a bag of BAL flexy that I could use for the floor, but this is now about 14 months old - will it be any good

Cheers for any advice

Steve

 

[bigandy]

hi all,

going to be starting tiling my bathroom in the next week or two.

I am leaving the bath out and the tiles that would be immediately butting to the bath due to the bath needing exact setting for the side panel (not cuttable for the height) so will be laying at least one lot of floor tiles that will be under the panel. Also, less chance of dropping a tile and damaging the bath :joker:

Wife has chosen some tiles from ctd (new world or something like that) that are 30*60 for the wall and going to be laying them out horizontal - not brick bond though!!

Two walls are wet plastered, 2 are studded, and i will be tanking along the edges of the bath, and the corners with the dunlop system (shower will only be used occaisionally, however kids use the bath all the time and water goes everywhere.

Walls will be tiled floor to ceiling, with two lines of mosaic glass beads going round all the room (one line low - the other high).

I will be battening out using laser level.

So, what would be the best addy to use for good grab, but workability - ie make, tubbed etc and what quantity to do 20 sq m

i also have a bag of bal flexy that i could use for the floor, but this is now about 14 months old - will it be any good

cheers for any advice

steve

why not for the extra few quid just tank the shower area? The kids and you will find you use the shower more and moreas they grow older!
Re adheshive it should have a use by date on but this will depend on how its been stored as well. I would be looking at powdered adheshive for that size(you dont state wether they are ceramic or porcelain) and esp for the glass ones make sure you fully cover the back of each one or any pockets of air will show through as a dark area(normally white rapid set or glass adhesive for me)

 

[charlie1]

Agree with above, also give the new plaster at least 4 weeks to fully dry before tiling. Def powdered adhesive and if tiles are porcelain then you will need flexable too. You will need to prime walls aswell.

1 20kg bag of adhesive will cover about 3-4m2 area depending on condition of walls so you will need approx - 5-6 bags.

 

[CTD inverness]

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Hi All,

going to be starting tiling my bathroom in the next week or two.

I am leaving the Bath out and the tiles that would be immediately butting to the bath due to the bath needing exact setting for the side panel (not cuttable for the height) so will be laying at least one lot of floor tiles that will be under the panel. Also, less chance of dropping a tile and damaging the bath :joker:

Wife has chosen some tiles from CTD (New World or something like that) that are 30*60 for the wall and going to be laying them out horizontal - not brick bond though!!

Two walls are Wet Plastered, 2 are studded, and I will be tanking along the edges of the bath, and the corners with the Dunlop system (shower will only be used occaisionally, however kids use the bath all the time and water goes everywhere.

firstly you must use a powdered adhesive for tiles of this size, use bal bond to seal all the walls first, then stick using bal single part or bal rapid set flexible (3 x 20kg bags should cover you)

Walls will be tiled floor to ceiling, with two lines of mosaic glass beads going round all the room (one line low - the other high).

I will be battening out using laser level.

So, what would be the best addy to use for good grab, but workability - ie make, tubbed etc and what quantity to do 20 sq m

firstly you must use a powdered adhesive for tiles of this size, use bal bond to seal all the walls first this is a must as the calcium in plaster and lime in cement can react over time so the bond will keep them apart, then stick using bal single part or bal rapid set flexible (3 x 20kg bags should cover you) for grout use bal microflex (available in white/ivory) about 7kg should do it. hope this helps bud

I also have a bag of BAL flexy that I could use for the floor, but this is now about 14 months old - will it be any good

shelf life is 1 year for powdered adhesives

Cheers for any advice

Steve

 

[grumpygrouter]

Hi All,

going to be starting tiling my bathroom in the next week or two.

I am leaving the Bath out and the tiles that would be immediately butting to the bath due to the bath needing exact setting for the side panel (not cuttable for the height) so will be laying at least one lot of floor tiles that will be under the panel. Also, less chance of dropping a tile and damaging the bath :joker:

Wife has chosen some tiles from CTD (New World or something like that) that are 30*60 for the wall and going to be laying them out horizontal - not brick bond though!!

Two walls are Wet Plastered, 2 are studded, and I will be tanking along the edges of the bath, and the corners with the Dunlop system (shower will only be used occaisionally, however kids use the bath all the time and water goes everywhere.

Walls will be tiled floor to ceiling, with two lines of mosaic glass beads going round all the room (one line low - the other high).

I will be battening out using laser level.

So, what would be the best addy to use for good grab, but workability - ie make, tubbed etc and what quantity to do 20 sq m

I also have a bag of BAL flexy that I could use for the floor, but this is now about 14 months old - will it be any good

Cheers for any advice

Steve

Before you fire in and buy your tiles, you need to check ou the weight of them, plastered walls will only support 20kg/m2 including grout and addy, so you may well be over the weight limit with those tiles.

 

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its not the size of the tile that determines the weight
its per m2 example 6" x 6" tile x 44 = 1 m2
12"x 12" tile x 22 = 1 m2
so it does not go with the size of the tile
general rule i use, no more than 9mm thick, tile on plaster
and no more than 16mm on plasterboard

 

[grumpygrouter]

its not the size of the tile that determines the weight
its per m2 example 6" x 6" tile x 44 = 1 m2
12"x 12" tile x 22 = 1 m2
so it does not go with the size of the tile
general rule i use, no more than 9mm thick, tile on plaster
and no more than 16mm on plasterboard

The poster didn't specify what type of tile he was fixing, neither did I bother to look at the CTD site to determine what they are. 9mm thick porcelain tiles will be heavier than 9mm ceramics, and stone will generally be even heavier. He should still check out the weight of his tiles before fixing. I would hate for one to fall off and hit his child on the head in the bath!

 

[ad tiling]

The poster didn't specify what type of tile he was fixing, neither did I bother to look at the CTD site to determine what they are. 9mm thick porcelain tiles will be heavier than 9mm ceramics, and stone will generally be even heavier. He should still check out the weight of his tiles before fixing. I would hate for one to fall off and hit his child on the head in the bath!

I should have said general rule for ceramic tiles only,
Grumpy i only replied because tile weight and walls
has been a little misleading in other posts
your advice is spot on as usual.

 

[lawrenso]

Hi Guys

thanks for all your replies and things to think about. Going to CTD this afters to order with their 25% off offer. I am pretty sure that the tiles are ceramic but will confirm this and the thickness while I am there. I did see something about adhesive they done that was BAL in another bag. Is this any good?

Cheers

Steve

 

[lawrenso]

Also,

in regards to tanking, we have two other showers in the house. One that is excellent in the main en-suite and the other that a poor electric in the second bedroom. This shower will only be used for washing the lads hair and for guests as that second shower is not fit for purpose.

Cheers

Steve