Who owns the receipts?

[Sean Kelly]

I did a job for a tiling firm in June and I have been chasing for payment ever since.
Our last correspondence was a text from them stating that they want receipts for the job. i.e. £10 London congestion charge and an £18 bag of rapid flex.

My invoice to them states the following:
Labour £150 (minus 20% for TAX) £120
London congestion charge £10
Bag of adhesive £18
Total £148

Surely I own the receipts, and my invoice to them is technically a receipt?

I personally do not have a receipt for the adhesive because I buy in bulk. So I am not going to give them a £200 receipt.

Cheers
Sean

 

[AliGage]

Receipts yours in my opinion. If you're supplying your invoice as you say is their receipt. It's what YOU are charging THEM for the materials you are supplying.

 

[prceramics]

just write them out a receipt for items mentioned as its you are supplying them and a photocopy of the congestion charge

 

[widler]

Like above said, photo copy or email receipts.
It's just tossers making it hard work for you to get paid.
Every penny nicked is a penny in there pocket (even if it a QS of the company,most of the smug smirking tosspotts think its there money)

 

[Dougs Third Go]

You own the receipt Sean as it'll be on your non-profit expenses when you put your books in to HMRC.

 

[Gazzer]

A classic stalling tactic.

 

[AMtek]

Just photocopy them, if you have one for the pallet of adhesive then photocopy that, it should say how many bags were on the pallet and just show the sums on the back, ie. divide pallet cost by number on pallet. To be honest if they were being like that I would probably just tell them to forget the adhesive and send the original congestion charge receipt, 10% of something is better than 100% of nothing

 

[John Benton]

Haha how can the receipts be theirs when you have bought and then charged them for materials etc. They're trying it on. The receipts are YOUR proof of purchase and your invoice is THEIR proof of purchase.

 

[Ajax123]

Your invoice is their receipt. They're trying it on...

 

[Tony73]

As all comments above

 

[Andy Allen]

what he really means is ...were completely skint ,can't afford to pay you the measly sum of £148 so will try this tac-tic in the hope of stalling you for a few more weeks...

if he keeps on, send him the receipts, in an envelope, with a big dog turd in there as well..

 

[kilty55]

as above ...minus the dog turd till payment lol

 

[Time's Ran Out]

£148! I wouldn't be rushing back to do any more work for them .
But then there is another side to the issue, but your side is them just stalling.

 

[Dougs Third Go]

as above...minus the receipt and just the dog turd

 

[Pebbs]

Well you live and learn, because I got told the other day, not to pay out any expenses without a copy of the reciept, because if the hmrc come in, they want to see the back up info...just saying....

 

[Ajax123]

Well you live and learn, because I got told the other day, not to pay out any expenses without a copy of the reciept, because if the hmrc come in, they want to see the back up info...just saying....

If you are paying exes to employees they should always be backed up by a legit receipt. However if you are invoicing your customers you don't provide them with your receipts surely...

 

[Pebbs]

Your work invoice is one thing for the 20% deduction on the CIS system. But I got told without fail if we dont have a copy of that reciept its not to be paid. It gets paid in full, but the back up has to be there.

 

[Ajax123]

Your work invoice is one thing for the 20% deduction on the CIS system. But I got told without fail if we dont have a copy of that reciept its not to be paid. It gets paid in full, but the back up has to be there.

So to push that to its logical extreme I work for a large company that buys materials from suppliers all the time. They buy materials from their suppliers and so on and so on. What you seem to be saying is that my company should not pay its suppliers without a copy of the receipts they have for the materials they buy from their suppliers etc etc... It just doesn't sound right.... Or am I reading it wrong??

 

[Sean Kelly]

It’s a shame as I have done a lot of work for this bloke in the past. I only get 1 or 2 jobs a year off him now. Personally I believe it is a delaying tactic, but if I had to copy receipts for adhesive from one supplier, silicone from Topps, screws from Toolstation etc then I would spend more time collating receipts than actually tiling.

As it happens, my last adhesive buy was from the last tax year. I bought a load of gear at the beginning of April. That receipt is now filed and the file has been closed. All I could do is to send him a receipt for a brass tile trim costing £36 and a copy of the CC number.

Also, I’m not 100% confident he is paying my 20% tax contribution, and I know it is my responsibility to obtain proof of this payment, but he does not send me proof.

I am thinking this is the last time I do work for him.

 

[Sean Kelly]

I did try and find an answer to my question on the Inland Revenue site, but I just went round in circles. I rang the 0300 number and just menu after menu.

 

[White Room]

Your work invoice is one thing for the 20% deduction on the CIS system. But I got told without fail if we dont have a copy of that reciept its not to be paid. It gets paid in full, but the back up has to be there.

So any discount the small guy gets who may work for a smaller builder he will lose because of showing his receipts, I have never ever shown any to prove but that is a couple of years ago.

 

[Sean Kelly]

UPDATE - I've just been paid!!!!!! via bank xfer.

 

[John Benton]

UPDATE - I've just been paid!!!!!! via bank xfer.

The dog turd worked then

 

[AliGage]

I'm doing some flooring for a builder at the moment who is quite on the ball with things. I asked for funds for 10 bags of addy which he transferred what I requested immediately. Need about another 5 which will be added to my finl invoice. Back on site monday, ill have a chat with him and see what his take on it is. Like I say, he's quite switched on with his business which is a refreshing change for a builder!

 

[John Benton]

I'm doing some flooring for a builder at the moment who is quite on the ball with things. I asked for funds for 10 bags of addy which he transferred what I requested immediately. Need about another 5 which will be added to my finl invoice. Back on site monday, ill have a chat with him and see what his take on it is. Like I say, he's quite switched on with his business which is a refreshing change for a builder!

If he transferred monies to your account Ali, then you will have to prove where that came from and the only way you can do that is by producing an invoice for it. You can then invoice him for the additional 5. All he's done by giving you monies for 10 is in effect paying you in advance.

Good to see though that he's paying you in advance, helps with cash-flow.