Why not be a Plumber .?

[Polishtradesman]

Yes, flamer for 15 pounds is really cheapest but it is still possible to solvent. I did not mean mine is like that. I meant that it is still possible to make a job. It is not comfortable but possible. Gazebo yes i fit shower pumps. They got connections like push-fit (these ones i saw got it anyway). Could you expalin why you thing that fitting metal compression instear of plastic joints is mistake. I think metal joint is better then pushfits etc. Might be wrong so please explain but without OMG etc.

 

[Polishtradesman]

Maybe you understood me wrong. I do not mean that you may be a plumber if you buy some cheap tools. I mean that to do simple bathroom plumb you do not need really expensive tools and do it yourself as it is not so difficoult. I mean simple plumb. It is not necessery to call plumber everytime you got something to connect. That actually all i mean - this is not so hard to do.

 

[Muse2k8]

Nah plastic push fits are brilliant they grip so well onto the pipe they are near impossible to get off. Give them a shot next time your doing any plumbing with poly pipe. Don't forget the pipe insert though lol.

 

[Polishtradesman]

Yes, i always use insterts but still cant imagine that using brass compression is less safe then these push fits. However your information are very helpful.

 

[Muse2k8]

Think of it like... Using silicone to stick down a tile and using tile adhesive to stick it down.

Both will hold it but the one designed for it will be better.

Compressions are better for rigid pipe such as copper and push fits on plastic. The push fits such as speed fit etc actually have metal teeth inside pointing back that when the pipe is inserted they grip into the pipe preventing it from being able to come back out (works brill too) where as a compression crushes the olive down. Now on a plastic pipe there is no rigid body behind the olive so instead what the olive does is recede into the wall of the plastic pipe instead. If you can imagine the olive essentially is all that is stopping the pipe popping out. Now if that olive is receding into the pipe body all it does in essence is make the olive smaller and thus the resistance it gives against the compression nut is a lot less making it more susceptible to "pop".

 

[Colour Republic]

Thanks for finally giving him a straight answer!

 

[Muse2k8]

Thanks for finally giving him a straight answer!

We got there in the end.

 

[Polishtradesman]

Tight brass compression on plastic pipe and try "pop" it or remove it without unscrewing using any tools maybe vice. I am really wondering how few bar of water pressure can do this. As I said it never faild. You right it might be complicated and it better to use ful systems. Anyway i think it is time to finish this discuss as someone looks nervous.

 

[Colour Republic]

You should really be using push fit on plastic pipe Polish. A lot of what you say is true and the basics of plumbing are quite easy to grasp but even if something works it can still be causing damage.

Like introducing galvinised fittings to central heating systems or fitting shower pumps incorrectly. It not quite as simple as just connecting it all up and away it goes.

I struggle to think of a single trade which doesn't have a technical side to it which is often misunderstood by other trades.

No, you don't need to call a plumber for every little thing but if you're making alterations to a system or fitting bathrooms you really do need more than a basic knowledge of plumbing.

 

[Polishtradesman]

Galvinised fitting - you mean that you screw one part into anotherone using teflon tape or string??

 

[Muse2k8]

Galvanised metal. Basically it corrodes copper pipe through electrolysis.

 

[Gazebo]

Galvinised fitting - you mean that you screw one part into anotherone using teflon tape or string??

Oh boy...maybe divert this to the plumbers forum....

 

[Gazebo]

See what response he gets from a forum full of plumbers... I shudder to think.

 

[Polishtradesman]

oh boy, oh boy.... I do not understeand phrase - Galvinised fitting. I simple googled it and that appeard - Galvanized Fittings , Ward Galvanized Fittings , Galavanized Pipe Fittings - PexSupply.com that why i asked. To make sure. Gazebo your posts do not help at all and you look nervous reading this thread.

 

[widler]

I understand what polish is saying, i mean, any tom dick and harry can get a leaflet from b&q or on tinternet on plumbing a bathroom in and follow instructions, to be honest its a piece of shabba dabba do really with all this push fit, which i believe was made for diy
,its like any trade,there are easy bits and hard bits, plumbers always get a bee in there bonnet when told this though always thinking they are the cream of the building trade


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[Muse2k8]

Think this thread has gone way off topic lol.

 

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[jay]

Think this thread has gone way off topic lol.

Ya think :lol::lol:

 

[Muse2k8]

Ya think :lol::lol:

Call it a hunch