OK OK, maybe I learned a big lesson from this post lol. Done job today, plain tiles, so I suggested I put in a diamond border and a little four diamond feature under the cooker hood for her to make it look a bit more interesting, she loved that idea! Looked great, then told her that the job was far easier than I had thought it was going to be and that she could reduce the cost by £100. I thought she was going to imlode with joy lol. She then went next door and got her neighbour and I have measured up her bathroom, not just for tiling, but a full re-furb. Then as I was going she gave me a peck on the cheek and pushed a £50 'tip' in my hand! Now I know this ain't gonna happen all the time........but I am feeling about 10 feet tall at the moment lol. Thanks for all your advice guys :grouphug: