Fixing Loose Lay Cable System

Two-Trowels · Mar 11, 2016

Bloody mats, always springing up when you don't want them too despite staples and tape - you think you've got all the curly bits until you whack some SLC on and then up they come

So next time I'm going to try with loose laid cable - what are the preferred methods of holding the cable down until the SLC goes on?

The suppliers suggest using little bits of tape, far too fiddly for me, you tear a bit off and it sticks to everything and you then have to find the end on the roll again

Could it be stapled? ensuring that you didn't catch the cable of course, how about dabs of hot melt, any better ways?

Tile seller · Mar 11, 2016

The loose wire kits should come with a tape which you can stick the wire down with and measure the wire spacing.

Otherwise, maybe try a matting system like vario pro or ditra heat.
Depending on the area it can be alot more costly but easier to fit.

Ian · Mar 11, 2016

I fitted loose cable once and never again! It's so labour intensive compared to the mats. I always spread some rapid SPF over the mat prior to SLC, this way there are no problems with floaters.

hmtiling · Mar 11, 2016

Mats and a hot glue gun for me

One Day · Mar 11, 2016

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martin1c · Mar 11, 2016

I never use the mats for the reason that yes, they do spring up all over the place. I always use loose wire now.

I use lengths of double sided sticky tape across the room at intervals which holds the wiring in place. Just to be in the safe side I then use the supplied warmup tape over the double sided tape. Word of warning though, avoid air pockets in the tape. I've heard that it can cause problems even though Warmup instructions actually tell you to tape all wires.

J Sid · Mar 11, 2016

impish said:
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That clip things looks good, where you get it?

Time's Ran Out · Mar 11, 2016

Ditra heat is the way forward.

One Day · Mar 11, 2016

JulianSidney said:
That clip things looks good, where you get it?

ezewarm. I've installed plenty of ditra heart e too. Love it but it's only worthwhile if you can save on time. If the floor needs leveling as this one did, then loose cables with wedi boards is far more cost effective.

J Sid · Mar 11, 2016

Would if it was better priced

Stef · Mar 12, 2016

impish said:
ezewarm. I've installed plenty of ditra heart e too. Love it but it's only worthwhile if you can save on time. If the floor needs leveling as this one did, then loose cables with wedi boards is far more cost effective.

I use Ezewarm mats all the time, great service from Russel.
Are those boards Jackon from CTD m8?
I see you said wedi but I thought they looked like Jackon.

One Day · Mar 12, 2016

Stef said:
I use Ezewarm mats all the time, great service from Russel.
Are those boards Jackon from CTD m8?
I see you said wedi but I thought they looked like Jackon.

Yes they are the ctd boards. Well spotted! Just for insulation so wedi would be overkill.

Two-Trowels · Mar 12, 2016

Where do you get the Ezewarm gear from? googled for it but only a couple of suppliers came up and can't see those fixing strips anywhere.

Lee@emctiles · Mar 14, 2016

Mats (if sticky) and boards are fine, done correctly and a decent leveller over matting then shouldnt get much dovetailing.

however, variopro is getting great feedback. cable with an uncoupling membraine

J Sid · Mar 14, 2016

Lee@TileTown said:
Mats (if sticky) and boards are fine, done correctly and a decent leveller over matting then shouldnt get much dovetailing.

however, variopro is getting great feedback. cable with an uncoupling membraine View attachment 80573

Has it got any insulation built into the mat? @Lee@TileTown and how much on average does it cost per Mt?

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