Another customer falls for a so called tiler

[diamondtiling]

This was installed by a so called tiler/bathroom fitter. As you can see it was all ripped out. The shower trap was connected to nothing so the water would have poured through the ceiling, the shower screen was not fixed together so if the the customer leaned against it it would have separated which would have been very nasty indeed.
The white profiles in the corner are 20mm plastic? never saw that before.
He tiled straight onto the paint so the tiles just fell off quite easily.
20mm gaps from the wall to the floor, the floor was still wet after two weeks, he used ready mixed adhesive and grouted the same day, knelt in the shower cubicle to avoid kneeling on the tiles.
I saved the UFH but that was never going to work anyway as he didn't have a live feed to it nor did he have a switched spur anywhere in sight. Loo was bodged with silicone as was the trap/waste on the sink.
The floor was not fixed down at all in an area of 3/4 metre, he had just left it, no inserts in his pushfit plumbing, the isolater for the loo didn't work. Plus as a leaving present he used an empty tub of ready mixed as a loo, dirty bugger!
Alarm bells started ringing after 3 days with the customer but he had a long list of excuses, oh and he charged £3000 of which he received an upfront of £1800.00.
CTD very kindly supplied new tiles at cost price but a full ripout was inevitable.

see what you think....




Picture of a nice bendy tile at the end lol

Just have to refit the loo, have to find some wingnuts as he lost them.

 

[Gazzer]

Bendy tile ? BCT ?

 

[lizzardtong]

Is there a course where you can learn how to do a mess out of a pretty straight forward job?

 

[Qwerty]

Yes, builder apprenticeship! lol

 

[lizzardtong]

I can say that is example of lack of common sense and no thinking whatsoever

 

[Time's Ran Out]

Not wishing to upset anyone on the forum who does multi trade but with all the work you've mentioned it may not have been a 'tiler'!
We've done a few jobs for a bathroom fitter ( who normally does his own tiling) and he turns out a decent job and is booked up solid!
When we've done complete bathrooms I enjoy the change and design aspect, especially being able to prepare the walls first, but I have the relevant trades available for plumbing/electrics as I believe it's every man to his own!

 

[White Room]

This was installed by a so called tiler/bathroom fitter. As you can see it was all ripped out. The shower trap was connected to nothing so the water would have poured through the ceiling, the shower screen was not fixed together so if the the customer leaned against it it would have separated which would have been very nasty indeed.
The white profiles in the corner are 20mm plastic? never saw that before.
He tiled straight onto the paint so the tiles just fell off quite easily.
20mm gaps from the wall to the floor, the floor was still wet after two weeks, he used ready mixed adhesive and grouted the same day, knelt in the shower cubicle to avoid kneeling on the tiles.
I saved the UFH but that was never going to work anyway as he didn't have a live feed to it nor did he have a switched spur anywhere in sight. Loo was bodged with silicone as was the trap/waste on the sink.
The floor was not fixed down at all in an area of 3/4 metre, he had just left it, no inserts in his pushfit plumbing, the isolater for the loo didn't work. Plus as a leaving present he used an empty tub of ready mixed as a loo, dirty bugger!
Alarm bells started ringing after 3 days with the customer but he had a long list of excuses, oh and he charged £3000 of which he received an upfront of £1800.00.
CTD very kindly supplied new tiles at cost price but a full ripout was inevitable.

see what you think....

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Picture of a nice bendy tile at the end lol

Just have to refit the loo, have to find some wingnuts as he lost them.

Was the block walls dot and dabbed plasterboard and was they removed....

 

[lizzardtong]

looks like it. but you cant see to many dots of adhesive

 

[White Room]

Exactly what I was thinking, they must have been bouncing like a gooden....

 

[On one]

Re:Bendy tile......last time I saw something that shape it was the ski ramp on the deck of HMS Invincible!

 

[Qwerty]

Re:Bendy tile......last time I saw something that shape it was the ski ramp on the deck of HMS Invincible!

I can think of something I saw that shape a lot more recently. Perfectly normal apparently so the GP tells me

 

[cr0ft]

My new apprentice has been working with me for 5 months now. I can 100% guarantee he could install a bathroom, tiling and all, to a much better standard than that.

I am beyond amazed that the guy touted himself as a bathroom fitter.

Please don't tar us multi-trade guys/gals all with the same brush though. Some of us do actually take a pride in our work!

 

[diamondtiling]

Dot and dabbed walls, no where enough dabs to stop any bounce, plus the original builder used 9.5mm boards.

 

[diamondtiling]

Bendy tile ? BCT ?

Good guess Neale. BCT

 

[High Peak Tiling]

Are BCT rated badly?

I don't touch anything I am not trained with.. If a toilet needs taking out or a rad taking off I call the plumber.. If not already made aware on pricing date.

 

[Gazzer]

Are BCT rated badly?

I don't touch anything I am not trained with.. If a toilet needs taking out or a rad taking off I call the plumber.. If not already made aware on pricing date.

It was just a guess but a good guess so work it out

 

[High Peak Tiling]

As for Multi-traders (croft) ... If you are good at what you do & are backed up by references + take great pride in your work then I don't see a problem with any of it of course.

I personally don't take a certificate of course completion as a positive thing straight away anymore unfortunately..
Only because a local multi-trader to me has his certificates plastered all over his van and tells me I am wrong when looking at a bouncing wooden floor a while back on a job.. when I pulled the floor up, the joists in question didn't meet the internal walls!!
I later learnt he has no work due to such a bad reputation :lol:

 

[cr0ft]

LOL he sounds like a bellend. I'm not a tiler as my first trade and I know that bouncing floor and rigid tiles = disaster!!

Have just spent a whole day recently strengthening a first floor wetroom floor by blocking it solid with 4x2 timber before overlaying with 25mm plywood and floor tanking with decoupler membrane. There is no movement in that bad boy at all now but I am worried that the floor weighs more than the house!

 

[Rookery]

So much for Rated People and NVQ2 !

 

[High Peak Tiling]

So much for Rated People and NVQ2 !

This is where I stand too.
The pieces of paper I've seen don't mean much, but I guess he knew how to do things properly once!

 

[High Peak Tiling]

So much for Rated People and NVQ2 !

I was going to use rated people or other but they were asking for 600/700+ for a year

 

[Rookery]

It just goes to show that being on Rated People and other such listings is no guarantee of a job well done. However, it's easy to see how the general public are taken in by these sites.

 

[White Room]

I wonder who writes there feedback ?

 

[High Peak Tiling]

It just goes to show that being on Rated People and other such listings is no guarantee of a job well done. However, it's easy to see how the general public are taken in by these sites.

The way is see it Rookery, is some customers think shoddy work produced by rogue tradesman looks fine,great etc...
So if they have paid for something which looks good to them even though you and I see flaws and sub-standard work they will right a review for the rogue's... (so they get away with it, with a tick!)
This is why I want to be part of the TTA, so I am properly vetted by people who know what they are talking about!

 

[diamondtiling]

The TTA know what they are talking about? In their opinion they do.