borders

[mutley]

Hiya,
hopefully an easy question for the experienced guys, just not for me :6:

Can someone please explain how setting out differs when trying to incorporate a border. I understand and feel comfortable setting out normally using a gauge/staff but lose the plot when thinking about adding a border. :mad2:

Any tips gratefully received.

 

[Proper Job]

its a full tile off the border mate, it just alters the up and down cuts on the floors and cealings how they finish, nothing to worry about

 

[mutley]

Proper job,
thanks for the quick reply. Understand about the full tiles etc and how it's going to move things up and down, maybe i'm trying to make it more complicated than it is.

Whats getting me is should I just mark out my gauge rod including my border tile (at a rough height) and then just move up and down to adjust my cuts for any obstacles or is there more to it ?

Cheers

 

[Proper Job]

alright mate, the customer normally tells you were to put the border, but if its me i see how its going to look against the feature points in the room and how my tiles on the top and bottom are going to finish normally a thin mosaic border does not cause much trouble
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oh and still place your battons, don't put the border in first and tile of it, just work your way up the wall and when you come to it fix it.

 

[mutley]

Proper job,
understand everything your saying, but, is there any difference for using a gauge rod or is it as i'm doing already ?

Normally i'd use a gauge rod having marked my tiles on it including spacers then adjusted my cuts to suit on the wall. Now by trying to use a border tile can i continue to use the gauge but this time marking it out as normal until I get to my approx height for the border, mark the border tile on the gauge and then carry on marking the full sized tiles above. Then just adjust everything up and down on the wall for the best cuts ??

How I can still use a gauge rod to do it is the only thing that is doing my head in :mad2:

If I'm making this far more comlicated than it should be then sorry.

 

[tfs]

Hi Mate,

Wherever the customer wnats the border, you use that point and put your staff stick against that. You would normally want a full tile under the border which, would mean that you will most liekly have a cut at the bottom of the wall.

After this make a datum all the way around the room where the border starts and use your staff to check at each point around the room to see how your cuts will come in for any fixings etc.

After this if need be you can use your staff again starting at the top of the border tile. Just make a mark above the datum which compensates for the size of border tile.

 

[Proper Job]

muttley i always use a guage rod on the vertical regarding the horizontal i normaly just mark them of accross the wall because you either start with a full or half a tile of your centre line.

If the customer tells you they want a border in a certain place just mark it off on the wall, then with your gauge rod from the border line mark your last full tile at the bottom of the wall.

Its not that hard mate, your thinking a little to much in to things, just take it in your stride and chill . If your a little uncurtain about setting out i can recommend a really good book called Ceramic and Stone Tiling: A Complete Guide you can get it from amazon.

This is book is an excellent read and covers pretty much everything.

 

[mutley]

Thanks for the replies guys, just need to put it into practice now.

 

[GazTech]

muttley i always use a guage rod on the vertical regarding the horizontal i normaly just mark them of accross the wall because you either start with a full or half a tile of your centre line.

If the customer tells you they want a border in a certain place just mark it off on the wall, then with your gauge rod from the border line mark your last full tile at the bottom of the wall.

Its not that hard mate, your thinking a little to much in to things, just take it in your stride and chill . If your a little uncurtain about setting out i can recommend a really good book called Ceramic and Stone Tiling: A Complete Guide you can get it from amazon.

This is book is an excellent read and covers pretty much everything.

Obviously, this book, compared to dhceramics....just scratches the surface..........Gaz :winkiss: