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diamondtiling

I have just read on another forum (JLC online) that the dewalt's bearings may have to be replaced after 12 months of continued use and that it could do with a bit more cutting power?
Anyone heard this?

The Sigma 10m is double the price of a dewalt but in 8 years I have only had to replace the blade (£80) 4 times.

http://www.sigmaitalia.com/?lang=en
 
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ross9807

ah ha, yeah sorry about the language.

but thanks everyone, it looks like i've found my answer.

its gotta be the dewalt. Havent heard a bad word about it yet, and also thats a good point about the montolit being the first one ....teething problems etc. also diddnt realise its 50kg!!! crikey, i'd break my back getting it out of the van

and i even found a laser that u can put on the guard to impress my missus.

QEP Tile Saw Laser Guide For tIle Saws

thanks again!
 
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richard Kent

I'm sure I'll get a caning for this, but I'm not the biggest dewalt fan around and I've never seen the Dewalt wet saw cutter in the flesh so to speak.
I'm old enough to remember Elu.
When Dewalt started off I had a 14volt Elu drill and a 14 volt Dewalt drill the Dewalt didn't even come close to the Elu in power and battery life and yet supposedly the same drill.
In the past I was asked to test Dewalt tools and was given their portable table saw to play with for 6 months, it broke after 3 weeks.
In the six months I had it, at least for two months it was being repaired.
The only Dewalt tool I've ever been happy with is their mitre saw stand :curtain:
With all the praise their wet saw gets I can only presume they have got their act together.
 
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Gazzer

With all the praise their wet saw gets I can only presume they have got their act together.


I dont have many Dewalt tools either but this is pure quality and gets used . No issues so far.
I am not just saying this because Tradetiler sell them as they also sell Rubi and Rubi are site sponsors....IMO The Dewalt is 3 times the machine over the Rubi of similar price.
 
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Richard Edwards

I've decided to buy a Dewalt D24000 when my Rubi ND 200 packs in, which I expected it to do long before now, but still going strong, even after a serious amount of heavy work - code for abuse ! - That said - this Rubi model is the table saw model - not the overhead rail your talking about. I dont know how effective the Dewalt will be at cutting switchboxes out of whole tiles as the smaller the dia of the wheel, be better it is at that specifc task.

I would suggest that if you can afford it, buy a Rubi ND Model 200/250 stainless bed and also a D24000. The Rubi table top version as one massive advantage over every other type of wet saw - inc our DR300 EN ! in that it will cut any length of cut - infinity [as long as you can support the tile and the cut-off. ie we have cut 1200mm porcelain on ours, whereas the D24000 is limited to about 800mm or something like that - not sure without checking but my memory [going as rusty as my Rubi !] says its 750/850mm ish !

Hope this helps

PS - Dave at Tiletrader knows I will give a call one day - Just not yet.

:thumbsup:
 
Hi Richard,

You could get a D24000 and the new Montolit 85mm diamond wheel for your grinder - this will cut out a single socket with the greatest of ease:thumbsup:

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diamondtiling

I've decided to buy a Dewalt D24000 when my Rubi ND 200 packs in, which I expected it to do long before now, but still going strong, even after a serious amount of heavy work - code for abuse ! - That said - this Rubi model is the table saw model - not the overhead rail your talking about. I dont know how effective the Dewalt will be at cutting switchboxes out of whole tiles as the smaller the dia of the wheel, be better it is at that specifc task.

I would suggest that if you can afford it, buy a Rubi ND Model 200/250 stainless bed and also a D24000. The Rubi table top version as one massive advantage over every other type of wet saw - inc our DR300 EN ! in that it will cut any length of cut - infinity [as long as you can support the tile and the cut-off. ie we have cut 1200mm porcelain on ours, whereas the D24000 is limited to about 800mm or something like that - not sure without checking but my memory [going as rusty as my Rubi !] says its 750/850mm ish !

Hope this helps

PS - Dave at Tiletrader knows I will give a call one day - Just not yet.

:thumbsup:


So will a sigma 10M

But it costs a lot more money.

:thumbsup:
 
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terrygrant

We find the dewalt saw and a 4" grinder with a decent blade along with either a hand diamond pad or an electroface diamond pad on a variable speed grinder (you can pick up a cheap one for £35 on ebay and as you only use them intermittently they last ages) plus a set of diamond hole saws is enough to do virtually anything we get asked for. When we are working with the larger format porcelain we use the larger Rubi TX snap cutters to suit the tile. We only use the wet saw where its necessary.

Terry
 
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DHTiling

I have a table saw as well as the Dewalt one..

My table saw is the Rubi Diamant D200 and is well above the ND200 for quality.. iv'e had the same cutter for yrs and yrs.. it is fully stainless steel and sits in the water tray rather than a slide in one... marvellous cutter for power etc but for the amount of stone work i do then it had to be the dewalt over the Rubi dw250n i had..




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richard Kent

Hi Terry
I'm a big Festool fan, got a load of their gear.
I will have to start useing a diamond blade and tracks with their plunge saw for Ezystone worktops.
Once you used the plunge saw and tracks with a diamond blade, does it damage the saw or tracks or can I easily you go back to a wood cutting blade? or do I need to get another plunge saw one for wood and one for stone?
Thanks Richard
 
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terrygrant

Depends what you mean by damage.....obviously it gets dusty and I am sure your average carpenter would be more than a little disgruntled if you borrowed his Festo, used it for the purpose I describe and then gave it back to him, but if like me you regard tools as items you use and abuse occasionally when justified then its fine and I regularly swap my saw from wood to stone and back as I require and its been fine so far.......but obviously your waranty is out of the window the moment you cut stone with it.

Regards

Terry
 
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terrygrant

"Hopefully" :)

I did it as an experiment on a big job that I cold afford to write off the saw to and I cant help myself when it comes to trying alternative methods to solve a problem. So if anyone else is following in my path then good for you but please be aware that if you are using somthing for somthing other than what it was designed for then if it breaks you are on your own:thumbsdown::oops::mad2:. However if it works and saves you loads of time you are a winner :hurray:

Heres to pushing the envelope as far as tool use/abuse goes :)

Terry

PS another little tip, buy one of those little kettle elements for heating a single cup of tea whilst camping (they work on 110 and 240) and put it in the resevoir of your wet saw whilst working outside in the winter (make sure the element cant come in contact with the tray if its plastic!) then you will find that he water that used to freeze your fingers is luke warm :)
 

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