Does it mean you are a bad tiler if you have slow patches?

[Colour Republic]

I would be fare more interested in wether he comes recommend and what his experience is rather than how his diary looks. There are hundreds of reasons why a tiler could fit a small job in at short notice.

That's not what you asked at the begining. Small jobs get slotted in all the time, even when people are busy.

Like I say, i would be concerned why he/she is available and might go to greater lengths to find out why, than say a tradesmen who couldn't fit you in for 3,4,5-10 weeks.

Somebody being busy doesn't make them any good but is usally an indicator that they are either very good or very cheap. (but not the only reasons)

Being available at ahort notice is normally an indicator of someone being either very bad or very expensive. (but not the only reasons)


How busy someone is, is just one indicator, just like...

Does he look smart or does he look like he's been dragged through a bush backwards and needing a good wash. (if he can't look after himself he's not going to look after my job)
Is he polite or is he going to be swareing in front of my customers.
Is the back of his van tidyish or is it pilled high full of ****. (i make enough mess on site to equal 10 tradesmen I don't need others adding to it)
Does he look like he's going to rob tools off site.

They are just indicators, of course the most important is 'Does he know what the fekk he's talking about' (although many can talk a good game)

I wouldn't not employ someone because they were short of work, untidy van, scruffy... etc etc, just concerned. IF I thought they would sware in front of customers or I thought they would rob tools is about the only 2 things I wouldn't tolerate.

 

[Colour Republic]

Should add there isn't a tradesman in the country that hasn't found themselves short of work at some point regardless of how good they are. But if you're good at what you do and you're good at finding work then you should be far busier than gys who are crap at those things.

 

[Andy Allen]

at the end of the day why does a customer have to know your short of work.....?

I just tell them there in luck and I have just had a cancellation and can fit them in straight away, however they must decide now as i'm piled out with work for the next 10 years...simples..:lol:

 

[Spud]

I read some of the replies on this thread and thanks for posting it Deano it's a really good one , what makes a good tiler ? If you are conscientious work to a high standard and leave a job both you and your customer are proud of then you are a good tiler I don't think the amount of work you have has any thing to do with it , I stopped pricing work in December as I was chasing in money from several companies I had worked for it meant January was a slow starter but by the end of the month I was busy again the down time didn't mean I wasn't working, I got my terms and conditions contract together while I was quiet so going forward I hopefully won't be in the same position I was in with loads of companies owing for work that had been completed for several months , I also thought about who and what type of work I was going to concentrate on doing this year and how I can make my business more profitable in the past I have been guilty of being really busy but when I looked at the figures the profits were not worth the effort that makes me a bad business man not a bad tiler

 

[charlie1]

This place really does make me laugh some of the time

Am I the only one here that feels like hitting my head off a brick wall?? The market place is the truest most accurate datum as measure how good one is at what they do regardless of what that is, in our most of our cases, we sell a tiling service. Some tilers specialise in high end work, some specialise in low end / high volume, but they are both obviously providing a good product if there diary is full. Does it make the individual a better 'tiler' is the question here? No. But the question is not accurate, what we should be asking is are we selling a better product? Who cares if you are a 'good tiler', What does that even mean? We could be here for years discussing that and I simply not qualified to judge as I have never employed any to compare.

I am in a lucky situation just now where I am very busy, I don't consider myself to be as good a tiler as many on here who I know come from a more tiling background but I know I'm making a good living and I'm selling a good product.

 

[Ajax123]

This place really does make me laugh some of the time

Am I the only one here that feels like hitting my head off a brick wall?? The market place is the truest most accurate datum as measure how good one is at what they do regardless of what that is, in our most of our cases, we sell a tiling service. Some tilers specialise in high end work, some specialise in low end / high volume, but they are both obviously providing a good product if there diary is full. Does it make the individual a better 'tiler' is the question here? No. But the question is not accurate, what we should be asking is are we selling a better product? Who cares if you are a 'good tiler', What does that even mean? We could be here for years discussing that and I simply not qualified to judge as I have never employed any to compare.

I am in a lucky situation just now where I am very busy, I don't consider myself to be as good a tiler as many on here who I know come from a more tiling background but I know I'm making a good living and I'm selling a good product.

its not that you are hitting your head on a brick wall it's just that you seem to have missed the point. The question was asked in the thread title... It's a little arrogant and condescending of you to suggest that the original poster did not know what he wanted to ask.....I think the question asked was perfectly accurate. Yes the term "good tiler" is ambiguous and could be discussed in a number different contexts. The market is probably the least accurate measure of how good one is.

 

[The D]

At the risk of being verbally abused again this thread was started because of a conversation on another tread that was a person had a bad tiling job done and came to the forum for some advice. She got good advice but when she had resolved the situation she needed a tiler to re tile the bathroom she asked on here but found a friends x was the manager of a tile shop and he recommend a tiler that tiler went and looked at the job and said he would go and sort it out the following week. She was happy with that but then the comment was made that if he was available at short notice he may not be any good. In my opinion this was a bit out of order as he came recommended by the manager of a tile shop and was fitting it in as a favour now this man may turn out to be a bad tiler or he may turn out to be a good one but I think the assumption that someone must be bad at what they do because they have a gap in there diary is pathetic.

 

[charlie1]

its not that you are hitting your head on a brick wall it's just that you seem to have missed the point. The question was asked in the thread title... It's a little arrogant and condescending of you to suggest that the original poster did not know what he wanted to ask.....I think the question asked was perfectly accurate. Yes the term "good tiler" is ambiguous and could be discussed in a number different contexts. The market is probably the least accurate measure of how good one is.

So what would you say about all the tilers out there who are very busy and making a good living, having never seen there work, all you know is they are busy, would you guess they where good or bad tilers?

 

[stusgsx]

I'm not up to much today I've nothing small enough to fit in. I'm halfway through converting my garage so will just mess about out there after watching homes under the hammer to see all the lash ups!

 

[the diving tile]

Volume of work means nothing good or bad. The thing is be content with what you do and get paid for it. Its as simple as that, took me years to work that out, a not very busy tiled but happy one.

 

[afright]

alfred .
quite bizarrely i am coming to visit your neck of the coast this weekend.
my nephew is marrying a lass from broadstairs.
we are staying in royal harbour hotel ( ramsgate )
reception at st lawrence college ( ramsgate)
does this sound ok.

what do you reckon.
why nothing in broadstairs !!!
i havent a clue but it did not go down well with my mother when i said i hoped there would be a really big storm.
i love a big storm but its not my wedding so fairs fair i guess.

Hi,Jonny you will like it Ramsgate has a nice harbour ,I dont know what the college is like for food,But Broadstairs is a great little town very Victorian only thing its better in the summer I sub for a pub/hotel chain they have four pubs and one hotel at Ramsgate harbour but its not the hotel that you are visiting but you will have a good time,Welcome to Thanet.Albert.:welcome:

 

[Brian the Tile]

contravercial is not the word ( if ive spelt it right)

 

[charlie1]

At the risk of being verbally abused again this thread was started because of a conversation on another tread that was a person had a bad tiling job done and came to the forum for some advice. She got good advice but when she had resolved the situation she needed a tiler to re tile the bathroom she asked on here but found a friends x was the manager of a tile shop and he recommend a tiler that tiler went and looked at the job and said he would go and sort it out the following week. She was happy with that but then the comment was made that if he was available at short notice he may not be any good. In my opinion this was a bit out of order as he came recommended by the manager of a tile shop and was fitting it in as a favour now this man may turn out to be a bad tiler or he may turn out to be a good one but I think the assumption that someone must be bad at what they do because they have a gap in there diary is pathetic.

incorrect! She said her mates x 'worked' in a tile shop. Also, how do you know the tiler was 'fitting her in'(implying a busy schedule) I believe her words where simply 'do it next week' also, I said I'd be concerned at hiring a tiler who was availible at a few days notice , not that he was neccisarily not good, I advised 'check him out' as I would any other tiler regardless of how busy they where!

 

[the diving tile]

Not sure how it works over there but here on the commercial stuff it the lowest quote gets the job, plus depending on the size you might have to do some work for free for contractor in his holiday home. So you can be flat out and not making money

 

[Brian the Tile]

oh charlie you apolagise one minute and the next your off again,why do you have a problem with others posts, just dont take things so seriously ,we are all in the same job man whether you are any good or not ,or whether you are busy or not ,and when i am i wont be on here all day