Dot and Dab tiles!!

[Dan s]

Don't want to scare you but I fit bathrooms a lot , and if they are that bad at tiling I would say check ALL plumbing joints etc just to be safe.

 

[DHTiling]

Good idea Dan ..

 

[AliGage]

Morning Nat and welcome.

This sort of work is happening more and more each and everyday.

I can't really add anymore than the guys already have. The only thing i will add is although (although its too early for maths so i haven't worked it out) i believe your tile size is just within limitation. Most tubbed adhesive will have a maximum bed depth limit of 6mm. This will obviously be exceeded if dot and dabbing has been done. Hence why you can pull them off with ease.

Personally. And i have sort of had this discussion with someone recently on this forum. The limitations, directions, tolerances and advice are all printed on the product. There is no excuse unless the guy can't read.
I don't know if giving him/them an opportunity to "do it right" is an option. Should of been done right the first time.

 

[DHTiling]

Morning Allister ... 3mm depth springs to mind here... as you say though, packing out with tubbed is a no no.

 

[AliGage]

Yes now yet mention it you maybe right. Sorry mate not long got up. Little fragile this morning.

I seem to recall BAL's tubbed stuff says 3 actually. Had this argument about a moth ago with a "busy" tiler in my area. He's been fixing travertine with green star and wait for it, never had a problem.

Thing is if these people used the correct products they'd make more money. How many tubs must they be going through per bathroom install. Nuts!

 

[DHTiling]

Yes now yet mention it you maybe right. Sorry mate not long got up. Little fragile this morning.

I seem to recall BAL's tubbed stuff says 3 actually. Had this argument about a moth ago with a "busy" tiler in my area. He's been fixing travertine with green star and wait for it, never had a problem.

Thing is if these people used the correct products they'd make more money. How many tubs must they be going through per bathroom install. Nuts!

Travertine ..jeez...

I love that phrase.. "done it for years and never had a problem.." , had no problems coz they have never been called back.


Nat , we shall await your reply to see what they say on Monday but for now do not worry and try to relax .. all can be fixed and not a permanent bodge.

 

[John Benton]

I think that these 'professional' fixers probably believe that this is a quick method of fixing, and also the fact that by using dot n dab, you can eliminate deviations in the wall/floor in one go, without any other form of prep.

Either way it's wrong and they should be taken to task about it. You don't even need to go for the jugular on this one. Raise the points made by these guys, wait for his answers, and then show him the fixing instructions on the tub. What can't speak can't lie.

Good luck!!

 

[gamma38]

How about 600 x 300 porcelain on the floor and walls with greenstar. Failed.... Another one which is still ongoing in my area was 600 x 600 porcelain dot and dabbed on ufh. It failed and is now a messy court case.

 

[gamma38]

Can you really do anything to a cowboy though. By definition they don't give a toss. All trades need to be challenged by the customer, references, public liability, affiliation with governing bodies etc.

 

[nat]

Thanks everyone for taking the time to respond to my post, not all tilers are bad then?!! At the moment they have only plumbed in bath and tiles, but they have the rest of my bathroom furniture. I don't want them completing the rest of the job, but not sure how I can go about sorting this out as I have already paid for the tiles which are now ruined.....any suggestions? Thanks

 

[AliGage]

Percentage wise rather than value. What have you paid them?

 

[nat]

I have paid for tiles and bathroom furniture but not paid anything for labour/fitting.

 

[nat]

This so called bathroom fitter is a member of Guild of Mastercraftsmen?

 

[DHTiling]

This so called bathroom fitter is a member of Guild of Mastercraftsmen?

All you have to do is pay the 300+ quid and you are in...

Now the TTA is a different kettle of fish.. they fully vet you and needs a referral to join as well ..


The Guild IMO has no meaning now to what it was a lot of years ago.

 

[AliGage]

Nat is everything you've paid for in your possession? Fixed or unfixed.