External mitre profiling tool

[Tony73]

Perhaps I'm missing something here but the principle of both is broadly the same - a hand held tool for mitres.

Both look to be good options.

MITRE WIZZ IS ACTUAL ANGE GRINDER, in video clip they cut mitre , i believe on ceramic tile (wich is soft) . With mitre wizz you don't see what you are doing, does it fit on any angle grinder? etc. etc.etc. I just realy want to try this new tool 🙂 , i think it has potential. It's only my opinion

 

[One Day]

The age-old trouble with cutting mitres on tiles - particularly porcelain - is the jagged edges.
Mitre-wizz as far as I can tell, doesn't address that bit of the problem.
This tool though would leave a nice clean 1mm "lip" of either factory-edge, or our wet-cut edge.

 

[Two-Trowels]

MITRE WIZZ IS ACTUAL ANGE GRINDER, in video clip they cut mitre , i believe on ceramic tile (wich is soft) . With mitre wizz you don't see what you are doing, does it fit on any angle grinder? etc. etc.etc. I just realy want to try this new tool 🙂 , i think it has potential. It's only my opinion

This tool definitely has the potential to be better as I would think the cut itself would be better than a grinder blade cut, it appears that the cut itself would be obscured from view by the tool itself.

Is this new tool designed to be used dry with a grinder?

 

[Concrete guy]

This tool definitely has the potential to be better as I would think the cut itself would be better than a grinder blade cut, it appears that the cut itself would be obscured from view by the tool itself.

Is this new tool designed to be used dry with a grinder?

Yes it's designed for use on a grinder wet or dry (wet will extend tool life). The only thing I'm not absolutely sure on right now is the target cutting speed.

I've assumed it will be close to the marble bullnose tools we sell at under 4500. But I have a feeling that porcelain actually might benefit from high speed cutting/grinding so that may even open up the tool use more if were able to be used at say 10,000rpm on your average grinder.

I've come from a stone background so have a limited knowledge of profiling porcelain, but I will confirm target speed before the items are sent out.

 

[rainsco]

i have vacuum brazed drills for dry and wet use for a variable speed grinder. i prefer diamant drills in wet use but sometimes i don´t have my hole drilling machine by me. so the vacuum brazed works perfekt in marble and granit but on porcelain stoneware it works not smooth and if you don´t use it wet theres no long life. so i will try your tool, cause i can use it for natural stone by the way. but i personaly would prefer a big coating of diamant, only wet use and adjustable rings when shape is smaller.


in this video on 6.28min you see the bullnose tool on porcelain stoneware.
Lastre grande formato - Movimentazione e Taglio - - YouTube

 

[Concrete guy]

i have vacuum brazed drills for dry and wet use for a variable speed grinder. i prefer diamant drills in wet use but sometimes i don´t have my hole drilling machine by me. so the vacuum brazed works perfekt in marble and granit but on porcelain stoneware it works not smooth and if you don´t use it wet theres no long life. so i will try your tool, cause i can use it for natural stone by the way. but i personaly would prefer a big coating of diamant, only wet use and adjustable rings when shape is smaller.


in this video on 6.28min you see the bullnose tool on porcelain stoneware.
Lastre grande formato - Movimentazione e Taglio - - YouTube

The problem with diamant (sintered or metal bonded diamond) is as the tool wears by design the shape of the profile changes.

The metal section is designed to wear away to expose the diamond and keep the tool sharp, it's exactly how cutting blades work and as you know they wear.

So vacuum brazed is a better product for a profile tool that has to retain it's shape permanently.

As you point out, it will work wet or dry. We would expect an extended life span if used wet. What is yet to be determined is if the finish is improved hen used wet vs dry.

The monolit tool is vacuum brazed and interestingly they are using it at high speed on a standard grinder.

 

[Concrete guy]

Having a had a chat with the engineers at the factory we've decided to make these profilers to a 30/45# grit which will cope far better cutting porcelain dry.

Vacuum brazed tools can withstand very high temperatures, so the target speed for these tools will be anywhere between 4500 - 12000 rpm. That means they can be used on a regular angle grinder.

There's no set target speed as such as the material (rather than the tool itself) will determine the most appropriate speed.

So on a new job, with a new tile, just run it on an off cut first to see how it's cutting and if a speed adjustment is required.

We have some other stock on it's way in 10-12 days times and these profilers will ship with them so we should have these available in less than 3 weeks time.

 

[Concrete guy]

The factory has said the mitre tools will be ready in 2-3 days. By the time they have shipped they will be with us towards the end of next week (week beginning 12th November.)

 

[macten]

Nice one Alan,

Give Lee @ protilers one to test run, we can all watch the vid then and you may well get inundated with orders!

 

[Concrete guy]

Nice one Alan,

Give Lee @ protilers one to test run, we can all watch the vid then and you may well get inundated with orders!

I sent Lee an R10 half bullnose and 20mm full bullnose this week. First thing he asked was "Where's the mitre bit?". LOL

Lee, it's not here yet.