External mitre profiling tool

[Concrete guy]

i have vacuum brazed drills for dry and wet use for a variable speed grinder. i prefer diamant drills in wet use but sometimes i don´t have my hole drilling machine by me. so the vacuum brazed works perfekt in marble and granit but on porcelain stoneware it works not smooth and if you don´t use it wet theres no long life. so i will try your tool, cause i can use it for natural stone by the way. but i personaly would prefer a big coating of diamant, only wet use and adjustable rings when shape is smaller.


in this video on 6.28min you see the bullnose tool on porcelain stoneware.
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The problem with diamant (sintered or metal bonded diamond) is as the tool wears by design the shape of the profile changes.

The metal section is designed to wear away to expose the diamond and keep the tool sharp, it's exactly how cutting blades work and as you know they wear.

So vacuum brazed is a better product for a profile tool that has to retain it's shape permanently.

As you point out, it will work wet or dry. We would expect an extended life span if used wet. What is yet to be determined is if the finish is improved hen used wet vs dry.

The monolit tool is vacuum brazed and interestingly they are using it at high speed on a standard grinder.

 

[Concrete guy]

Having a had a chat with the engineers at the factory we've decided to make these profilers to a 30/45# grit which will cope far better cutting porcelain dry.

Vacuum brazed tools can withstand very high temperatures, so the target speed for these tools will be anywhere between 4500 - 12000 rpm. That means they can be used on a regular angle grinder.

There's no set target speed as such as the material (rather than the tool itself) will determine the most appropriate speed.

So on a new job, with a new tile, just run it on an off cut first to see how it's cutting and if a speed adjustment is required.

We have some other stock on it's way in 10-12 days times and these profilers will ship with them so we should have these available in less than 3 weeks time.

 

[Concrete guy]

The factory has said the mitre tools will be ready in 2-3 days. By the time they have shipped they will be with us towards the end of next week (week beginning 12th November.)

 

[macten]

Nice one Alan,

Give Lee @ protilers one to test run, we can all watch the vid then and you may well get inundated with orders!

 

[Concrete guy]

Nice one Alan,

Give Lee @ protilers one to test run, we can all watch the vid then and you may well get inundated with orders!

I sent Lee an R10 half bullnose and 20mm full bullnose this week. First thing he asked was "Where's the mitre bit?". LOL

Lee, it's not here yet.

 

[Concrete guy]

The Profilers arrived today.

But, (there's always a but isn't there!) There is a small inexpensive but very important piece missing - the guide washer in between the cutting head and the plastic guide. This will run along the 1mm good edge of the work piece and stop the tool cutting too deep.

I'm getting some run up so they can be fitted.

Of course the tool could still be used by simply clamping a batten to the tile and using the plastic guide as a depth stop as the appropriate size.

I'd prefer to have the complete and correct before any go out though.

Overall I'm pretty happy with how they've come out from an idea only a few weeks ago.

I'll update as soon as I have a solution for the depth stop and will then be able to send the first ones out.

 

[Tony73]

I'M waiting :drool5::hurray:

 

[Peter]

Looking good. Could have used it last week, the DW250 is hopeless at mitres.

 

[Concrete guy]

Looking good. Could have used it last week, the DW250 is hopeless at mitres.

Frustrating waiting for them, all I need are a few washers and they are ready to go.

It's a new item, it's worrying if it turns up without at least one minor teething issue or you think you've forgotten something!

 

[Alan.P]

Nice, waiting patiently.

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[Concrete guy]

Reserved list (including anyone who expressed an interest earlier in the thread).

It looks like I need to up the order already.

If you want to add your name simply copy this post - add it on and post.

Same if you want off the list.

1. Impish
2. Sir Ramic
3. graythetiler
4. andy tiler
5. Tony73
6. poynton phil
7. AliGage
8. Alan.P
9. Wingn
10. cam_Low
11. rainsco
12. Houston

 

[Tony73]

how much longer ? when are we gettin new mitre mizz? :incazzato: :lol:

 

[Concrete guy]

Probably have them ready to go first week of December.

We had to re make some components and I don't want these going out until they are right, they will operate at around 10,000rpm so need to be spot on. I figure we're still safely on target to get out before the mitre whiz :smilewinkgrin:

 

[Qwerty]

Looking forward to the test results.......but may jump on the bandwagon too and pop myself on the list!

 

[Concrete guy]

It looks like I need to up the order already.

If you want to add your name simply copy this post - add it on and post.

Same if you want off the list.

1. Impish
2. Sir Ramic
3. graythetiler
4. andy tiler
5. Tony73
6. poynton phil
7. AliGage
8. Alan.P
9. Wingn
10. cam_Low
11. rainsco
12. Houston
13. Blocko (possibly)