External mitre profiling tool

[Jeff the tiler]

Alan. what thicknesses will this do. I think you will get great results with travertine.

 

[Concrete guy]

I bet the wet results would be even better

I think so too, I have a feeling it would speed the process up also. Particularly with porcelain.

 

[Concrete guy]

Alan. what thicknesses will this do. I think you will get great results with travertine.

I made this at 12mm with travertine in mind, so it should be good up to that thickness. However the quality of mitre on travertine is more likely to be determined by the amount and quality of filler that is contained within the stone.

On travertine I prefer a 10mm half bullnose finish, I think it's just more suitable for the material type.

A good quality trav will be close in texture and density to marble, and I got the best results from my tests with marble, which is relatively soft.

 

[Tony73]

MINE ARRIVED THIS MORNING :hurray:. THANKS ALAN

 

[Spud]

Mine came too cheers Alan

 

[Concrete guy]

New washers for the others I have here were ordered today, Fingers crossed I'll have them this week. It's a family engineering firm and they've always been very efficient. They do engineering for a few of the Formula 1 teams so I think a few laser cut washers aren't an issue.

 

[Concrete guy]

Well it's taken a while but finally I have another 16 of these tools ready to go for those who would like them.

They will go on our on line shop over the weekend/early next week available for general sale.

Any forum members that would like one before these go on line please send me a PM and we'll get them out to you.

The last list on the thread excluding those who have already ordered:-

1. Sir Ramic
2. andy tiler
3. poynton phil
4. AliGage
5. Alan.P
6. Wingn
7. cam_Low
8. rainsco
9. Houston
10. Blocko (possibly)
11. CJ

 

[Tony73]

Hi all, look how other PRO TILERS do mitres :lol:

And i went in to try to repair with some paglerino akemi (stone glue), I know it's not perfect, but it's all i could do

 

[One Day]

Sadly Tony, I've seen far far worse than that!

 

[Tony73]

It is SAD when you see somethink like that :incazzato:

 

[Concrete guy]

The Mitre profilers are now available in our on line shop at £93.78 inc vat + p&p. (the increase in price represents the fees charged for the sale).

I will hold the price to all tilersforums members at £81.78 + p&p - just contact me via the forum (private message).

I can't link directly to the sale in open forum it would be a breach of my account status on here. Just type my username into Google and we're pretty easy to find if you want to take a look through our shop.

 

[Ian]

I've just had a practice with mine Alan, ready for this weeks job. I'll start a new thread when I've sorted the pics out.

 

[Concrete guy]

I've just had a practice with mine Alan, ready for this weeks job. I'll start a new thread when I've sorted the pics out.

That would be very helpful Bri, there are 4 of these out now with members, and another two imminent.

I think there are a few people who are waiting for a bit of independent feedback before they take the plunge.

I'm also very interested, as whilst I make every effort to test these things thoroughly, it's only once they are in the field and getting real world use that you find out really how useful they are.

 

[One Day]

Just had a quick first go with mine - porcelain and ceramic.
Very impressed with how well it eats the porcelain, and well it just gobbles the ceramic.
It's probably just lack of practise (and I will have another go tomorrow) but the guide was a bit sticky until I wd40'd it, and I managed to chip an edge with the washer catching the edge.
1st impressions - I'd probably still rough-mitre using my DeWalt and finish the mitre with the wheel?
With a bit of practise though I'll probably change my mind. I reckon stone will be the best result of all.

Used dry on variable speed makita.

 

[Concrete guy]

I've not tested it on ceramic, I was so preoccupied with getting it working on Porcelain that I didn't consider that. I have a feeling the cutting head will be too coarse for ceramics or it may need to be used wet.

I could make some less aggressive cutting heads for softer materials.

These also have a very small element of adjustment built into them, there are a couple of 0.25mm thick shims in the construction of the tool that can be removed if there is wear over time. I can give instructions if these need to removed - it's pretty simple.

I think a rough cut mitre first then using this tool is a great idea, it will substantially extend the cutting head life.

The WD40 solution might be a side effect of dry use, that could be another plus towards using it wet - waste material removal that will stop the tool clogging long term.

 

[One Day]

Wet would definitely be better on porcelain. No question about it.
I doubt I'd ever have to mitre ceramics but you never know. I agree ceramic is too fragile for the bite of this wheel.
Even dry though, the heat produced was lower than I expected - even at full speed.

 

[Concrete guy]

Very helpfully Bri did a mini review of his tool as seen on the following thread:-

http://www.tilersforums.com/tiling-tool-reviews/65483-ats-mitre-profiling-tool.html

Any more takers?

 

[Gazzer]

Got mine today but actually didnt bother to try it ...too cold at the moment....soon

 

[Concrete guy]

Bri's post in JOTM March 2013 made me think about this product again (as he mentioned he'd used it on that particular job).

There was a reasonable amount of interest (excitement would be stretching it I think) in this product when I came up with the idea but it seems to have gone flat/quiet lately.

So how are you getting on with this bit of kit? I've not had anyone come back and say "It's carp I want my money back" so that's a good start but there's been little feedback on it.

How's it working out guys? Anyone else interested in one?

 

[Gazzer]

Apart from short testing i havent used mine. The job i had hoped to use it on went for a square polished edge in the end.

 

[Ian]

It's a great product Alan, my only complaint would be the time it takes to do a mitre, even with the bulk being taken off with a grinder it probably still takes 10 mins to run down a 600mm length. There are definitely quicker ways of mitring but, it is very accurate time and time again.

 

[Concrete guy]

Accurate but a little slow on porcelain, that's something that's already been mentioned to us.

It appears to be much much faster on natural products, particularly marble and granite.

It's a shame we couldn't get it to work at high speed on a grinder, I guess that was just wishful thinking, but it was just too aggressive.

 

[Ian]

Yeah, those tiles in JOTM were rock hard porcelains, I'm yet to try it out properly on a stone. I'm glad I bought it, it's one of those tools that will only get used a few times a year but, well worth having.

 

[Spud]

I havent had the opportunity to use mine yet either Alan other than playing around with a few spare tiles but it is like most things I have in my tool box it serves a purpose when needed and I think it is well worth the money and will pay for it self time over when the right job comes up so am happy
I tried mitring some porcelain on my dewalt with a worn in blade and the material just pushed the blade off and gave a squinted mitred so your tool is definitely needed and works better than a conventional wet saw in my opinion

 

[Ian]

I havent had the opportunity to use mine yet either Alan other than playing around with a few spare tiles but it is like most things I have in my tool box it serves a purpose when needed and I think it is well worth the money and will pay for it self time over when the right job comes up so am happy
I tried mitring some porcelain on my dewalt with a worn in blade and the material just pushed the blade off and gave a squinted mitred so your tool is definitely needed and works better than a conventional wet saw in my opinion

Couldn't agree more Gary, and with the dewalt, the arm gets in the way on large tiles. It could do with the head tilting 45* the other direction.