Failed floor dot & dab

[Therese38]

Hi, I have approximately 80 m² open plan area tiled in 800 mm x 800 mm porcelain tiles. The whole installation is creaking and moving and it has become apparent that the Tiler has used a dot and dab method through out to fix the tiles. I have asked him to come and inspect the installation and give me some advice on the failure but he has denied that he has any culpability saying he has always laid tiles that way. I also have a wet underfloor heating system underneath covered by celectra screedboard. I have told him it doesn’t conform to any TTA regulations or indeed British standard 5385. Any comments would be welcome

 

[acaciaguy]

Very sorry to hear this. Rip up and start again if all dot and dab. Did he also fit ufh?

 

[Therese38]

No another contractor screed the floor, laid the underfloor heating panels and then put Cellecta screedboard on top. he also didn’t prime the screed board prior to fitting the tiles, and didn’t back butter them either, or use a notch trowel

 

[acaciaguy]

The tiles haven’t been fixed properly. On a positive note it’s probable that the tiles will come up easily and be able to be rescued

 

[Andy Allen]

total mess, and unacceptable, if he won't come back and fix it I hope you sue the pants off him, idiots like this shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a tiling insulation, and if he's always tiled this way, then he's been doing it wrong, and I dread to think of the trail of destruction he's left behind.

was he actually a tiler or a builder or multi trader ??

 

[finlay]

Sorry to hear this ,no option but to rip up and start again. The tiles hopefully should come up easy and you could save most of them .Makesure you get a proper tiler to re tile ,plenty of good tilers on here who maybe able to help .All the best going forward .

 

[Dumbo]

Did you contract the tiler , or was he supplied by by a third party
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Who has lifted the tile for you

 

[hmtiling]

I'm guessing the celecta screed board is floating. I've tiled on this before, properly though, but can't offer a guarantee. His methods are certainly poor but might not be the only reason for failure. A floating floor system was a bad choice for a tiled finish

 

[Bathfix Bob]

Is that a Tilemaster guy?

 

[Huddersfield Tiling]

Hi, I have approximately 80 m² open plan area tiled in 800 mm x 800 mm porcelain tiles. The whole installation is creaking and moving and it has become apparent that the Tiler has used a dot and dab method through out to fix the tiles. I have asked him to come and inspect the installation and give me some advice on the failure but he has denied that he has any culpability saying he has always laid tiles that way. I also have a wet underfloor heating system underneath covered by celectra screedboard. I have told him it doesn’t conform to any TTA regulations or indeed British standard 5385. Any comments would be welcome

 

[Dumbo]

Do you know what , we always have british standards mentioned more usually by ourselfs than visitors to this site and i only think it only serves to fudge the issue , as ive said before its not law ,you wont go to jail, its not even building regs , ie new houses are getting built without tanking in wet areas and building control dont care , now what im getting to is this , if a bs non compliant job is done and hasnt failed should it be redone , or if a job that is done to british standards and fails could the tiler say , it was done to bs its your problem now ,
What it should really come down to has it failed yes/no
Is it acceptable yes/no

 

[hmtiling]

In this instance I think whoever specced a floating floor should be partially culpable too.