fast track course for electrics in bathrooms etc

[kilty55]

hey all,i do spotlights in a lot of bathrooms we do and have watched the sparks doing it...seems quite simple if i knew how to properly,is there a fast track course that gives me a qualification to deal with thiings like spots etc on my installations? maybe a 10 or 15 day course does anyone know what the regs are?

just subbies out 45 spots on one job and was annoyed at the money the sparks wanted for doing the job which in the end took 7 hours,one wanted 1200 labour :yikes:so im looking to do it myself any help appreciated

 

[Slowly Learning]

I went to Able Skills in Dartford. Alot to take in and remember but the forum Dan mentions is a top referance point the boys on there have helped me out loads.

 

[Scott]

I must admit in all the bathrooms ive done in the last 2 years 95% of them have had to have a new consumer as they werent up to date. However, the eye rolling stops when you give the customer the info they can read for themselves on the web.

 

[salmonfisher]

dont need part p in scotland

You need part P ELECSA - Part P

 

[kilty55]

dont need part p in scotland

what do i need salmon?

 

[Scott]

Bathrooms and kitchens are deemed special areas so need a cert as do downlights in any location. Dunno about Scotland though

 

[Stewart]

Just get a set price from a reliable spark that wants to do your work, then build it into your price, plus you markup. I have a set price for all the usual things that go into a bathroom and do quite well out of it.

If you start doing everything, then you start putting more pressure on yourself, jobs take longer and you don't really make any more money.

Get yourself a good reliable squad, imo it's the best way.

 

[cornish_crofter]

Dave's right - you need to be Part P approved installer.

That doesn't mean to say you need to be a fully trained electrician or such like though.

Best thing if you want to learn more is to do the 17th edition course at your local tech college. A basic understanding of domestic installations helps, but you could quickly gleen this from various references on the net etc.

Then if you want to take it further, try and find a good C and G 2391 course. This will take you to the next level of inspection and test. It won't turn you into an installer overnight but the inspection and test element will hep you to understand what is expected in terms of good practice etc.

You will also understand the level of paperwork that is needed etc.

Having said that, there is much to be said for hiring someone to come in work alongside you. They take responsibility for the installation alterations, leaving you to get on with what you do best.

 

[tfs]

Hey guys,

Looked into this previously.

Part P is a great route to go but, for us guys in Scotland it is not a recognised qualification as it has not yet been enforced here.

To the best of my knowledge we need to go down the route of 17th Edition and inspection and testing etc and then register with a trade body prior to being in anyway qialified. I think Part P would give you the knowledge required to pass the required tests to register with a certified body.

There is ofcourse the exception as you can carry out minor work like raplacing sockets and light fittings etc. You cant do works such as new circuits and some work in bathroom etc

 

[salmonfisher]

(Dave's right - you need to be Part P approved installer)

Part P to Building Regulations - The IET

you can still do notafiable work in england and wales (diy) without being part p registered part, p registered only means that they can self certify there work without involving building control before work comenses see above link Q10/3 (DIY electrical work is not to be encouraged, however where a householder wishes to carry out electrical work they must notify building control before commencing work. Building control will arrange for the work to be, inspected and tested at various stages and will charge a fee to cover any costs incurred)
This only applies in England and Wales Scotland has always had Buildings Standards (Scotland) Regulations covering improvements and as long as its not involved with structural work its not notifiable

 

[Scott]

Its £150 for an inspection in Bedfordshire more than likely plus vat!