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kev

When fitting a 4 size opus modular, do you find you have to shave some of the tiles to make them all fit with even grout lines, done a few with some real expensive stone and they were already pre-cut, but general ready available sets from places like Topps i find need to be cut down... they all fit together when pushed together but as soon as you open up for the grout lines they start to run out....
 
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Alan.P

No you shouldnt need to do that. I have been working all weeek on a tumbled chisel edge trav floor and they fit together fine :thumbsup:


Conversely, we laid one the other week, 4 sizes of tile in a twelve set, some of the smaller tiles were very sizey, had to free hand it here and there, finished job looked well, I'll post a pic................

EDit here's a couple, sorry about the quality, iphone jobby
 

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Perry

Conversely, we laid one the other week, 4 sizes of tile in a twelve set, some of the smaller tiles were very sizey, had to free hand it here and there, finished job looked well, I'll post a pic................

EDit here's a couple, sorry about the quality, iphone jobby

Alan we done one the other week was that 4 sizes had to have a 4mm grout joint to fit bigest joint i have seen for years lol 26 tile pat ?
 

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I have also had many examples of travertine tumbled edge tiles cut for the opus 4 element design where you have to use 5mm spacers for the larger tiles and 2 or 3mm spacers to go round the smaller tiles to keep the pattern repeat to a size where all the gaps are even around the larger tiles, while keeping the full tumbled edge.

:thumbsup::smilewinkgrin:
 
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Gazzer

I am really amazed that so many people have this issue. My 1st job after the new year was an opus romano pattern. When the tiles were laid out on the floor, the larger rectanguler tile was 10mm too small. This would have given 3mm joint on all the rest and 13mm on the large tile....totally unacceptable. They were sent back and at a later date new tiles arrived which were perfect. Even if it were just the smaller tile that needed trimming down , i cant see why you should have to. The tiles were bought as a set and so should work as the set.
As for some people accepting different joint sizes to overcome the issue i am doubly amazed....i am sure my clients would not accept that at all.
 
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borgie

I seem to do nothing but opus floors these days. I do a lot of work for national Stone retailer and most of the time the small squares are always bigger than the rest. The company always cover themselves with loads of paperwork, on delivery. In the paper work, for the customer and fixer, it says the tolerence in the joints,for opus, is between 3-10mm. I aways lay out the 14 tile patteren dry, check the varation in the joints, take the measurements and fix it in pannels. Yes all the joints are not the same, but this is part of the effect. This does not apply to anything that is polished, these need to have pefect joints. But for most stone with distressed edges it is fine to have some variation in the joint sizes. You never cut stone down to fit it in. This is a sign of bad setting out. If the sizes are way out, yes then send them back.
Fixers and suppliers should know this and tell the customer before they start fixing what the finished area will be like. Then if the cusomer is not happy with variation then they can take it up with the suppliers. But to cut tiles down takes a lot of extra time (do you charge extra for this?) and does not look very proffessional.This is only my opinion. But I do these kind of floors everyday, not once a month, on £5-£10mill+ properties and I have never had any complaints.
 
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DHTiling

I seem to do nothing but opus floors these days. I do a lot of work for national Stone retailer and most of the time the small squares are always bigger than the rest. The company always cover themselves with loads of paperwork, on delivery. In the paper work, for the customer and fixer, it says the tolerence in the joints,for opus, is between 3-10mm. I aways lay out the 14 tile patteren dry, check the varation in the joints, take the measurements and fix it in pannels. Yes all the joints are not the same, but this is part of the effect. This does not apply to anything that is polished, these need to have pefect joints. But for most stone with distressed edges it is fine to have some variation in the joint sizes. You never cut stone down to fit it in. This is a sign of bad setting out. If the sizes are way out, yes then send them back.
Fixers and suppliers should know this and tell the customer before they start fixing what the finished area will be like. Then if the cusomer is not happy with variation then they can take it up with the suppliers. But to cut tiles down takes a lot of extra time (do you charge extra for this?) and does not look very proffessional.This is only my opinion. But I do these kind of floors everyday, not once a month, on £5-£10mill+ properties and I have never had any complaints.



I work with these patterns and stone a lot as well... and it isn't bad setting out IMO..

You can only open the joints as far as the largest tile width/length..to open any further then your lines don't run true.

Bespoke cutting is part and parcel of stone fixing and is not un-professional and chiselled edges can be re-done to suit the tile edge finish or even tumbling..

The only size that i have had to trim is the small ones.. so no way is it bad setting out.. it is the way some stones come from the quarry factory's.
 

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