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Dougs Third Go
ie, trimming green tags, I won't be offended if you trimmed mine Dan, I'm not as prolific as I used to be, I know the drill. I am, however, disappointed that you locked the thread when it was in Trusted Forum.
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Spud
You can cut me if you like there are others giving more to the forum than me at the moment
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jonnyc
Cut me as well if I am not giving enough support.
to be honest I find that there is a hard core of trusted members who cover most questions.
being self taught I am probably less confident .
but if I see a question that other members cannot answer that falls within my experience I will
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jonnyc
Sorry didn't finish last post.
recap I think we are well equipped with good advice .
i am guilty of not participating in much advice but this does not mean I do not follow or understand .
i try to find a thread or post that no one can give an answer to and only if I can make a contribution
recap I think we are well equipped with good advice .
i am guilty of not participating in much advice but this does not mean I do not follow or understand .
i try to find a thread or post that no one can give an answer to and only if I can make a contribution
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DHTiling
To me it is knowledge that makes a trusted advisor , yes i know when i was admin that we liked trusted members to post a lot to keep the tag , but a lot of the green guys have earned their tags time and time again... their advice is on the forums for eternity for ALL to read for yrs to come , so to remove a green tag would be a bad move , those reading said advice would take it better if it is coming from a trusted advisor .. so i would leave them be and appoint new ones who also input great advice..
I know the forums have not been like it used to be , but with some backing from us greens i think it could be...
I try to post as much as i can but as some know i do have lots to do at home with the wife's MS etc.. but the negativity between tilers and multi traders is wearing thin now , i thought it was good humour and enjoyed the banter but newer ones do not seem to take it so... i don;t know it just seems we are at each other more nowadays..
Enough from me then .. just my take on things and i do hope we can progress from this stagnant period.
I know the forums have not been like it used to be , but with some backing from us greens i think it could be...
I try to post as much as i can but as some know i do have lots to do at home with the wife's MS etc.. but the negativity between tilers and multi traders is wearing thin now , i thought it was good humour and enjoyed the banter but newer ones do not seem to take it so... i don;t know it just seems we are at each other more nowadays..
Enough from me then .. just my take on things and i do hope we can progress from this stagnant period.
I had a quick look at Dans post about this today and have explained why I haven't been as proactive at least as much as I would like to be.
Putting my situation to one side, ive given this quite a lot of thought and I don't believe it is in the forums best interest to remove green tags from members.
The way I see it the TA tag is something earnt and acheived. I can't really see its merit primarily is on forum activity. If it was Lee from protilers would achieved his a lot lot sooner, and even Tea bag would be in the running for one!
From an outside perspective it is seen as it reads "trusted advisor". For those newbies and diyers looking for advice it holds water. Someone who has been recognised for their knowledge base as oppose to post count.
Just because someone has been away from the forum for a breif time doesn't make their advice any less trustworthy does it? I know we're all looking to rekindle the forum a little and push things forward, but I feel stripping someone of recognition, acheivement and dare I say it status (at least to the outside members/newcomers) can only effect the forum negatively surely?
At the moment I get the sense that there has been a big increase in work. I for one am rushed off my feet doing 17 hour days, 7 days a week. If anyone else in the green room, or of any other "banding" (for want of a better word) are experiencing the same increase in workload, they might not be able to participate as much as they did or would like to. But I'd like to think that when they do log on and contribute something that their input held the same weight and merit as it did when they kast logged on, regardless of how long ago that was.
Putting my situation to one side, ive given this quite a lot of thought and I don't believe it is in the forums best interest to remove green tags from members.
The way I see it the TA tag is something earnt and acheived. I can't really see its merit primarily is on forum activity. If it was Lee from protilers would achieved his a lot lot sooner, and even Tea bag would be in the running for one!
From an outside perspective it is seen as it reads "trusted advisor". For those newbies and diyers looking for advice it holds water. Someone who has been recognised for their knowledge base as oppose to post count.
Just because someone has been away from the forum for a breif time doesn't make their advice any less trustworthy does it? I know we're all looking to rekindle the forum a little and push things forward, but I feel stripping someone of recognition, acheivement and dare I say it status (at least to the outside members/newcomers) can only effect the forum negatively surely?
At the moment I get the sense that there has been a big increase in work. I for one am rushed off my feet doing 17 hour days, 7 days a week. If anyone else in the green room, or of any other "banding" (for want of a better word) are experiencing the same increase in workload, they might not be able to participate as much as they did or would like to. But I'd like to think that when they do log on and contribute something that their input held the same weight and merit as it did when they kast logged on, regardless of how long ago that was.
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Dougs Third Go
I do think that the higher posters get a bit tired of answering the same old questions time and again, hence the "drop off" in their post counts, I know a lot of my posts haven't been tile related, ie my dog and tunes posts, but in all honesty I'm quite happy just to read posts and now and again chip in when I feel somebody is giving bad advice, it's a bit of a vicous circle I guess...I'd still like to make it to 30K posts though, if I do that by 18th October I'd average 6k posts a year lol
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Qwerty
I quite agree Ali. I am writing this at 4am on a Sunday morning ....... not because I've been out on the beers or can't sleep, but because I've just finished work!
Doug is right too. The same questions tire rapidly and can often put me off posting but I feel the majority of us give it a good amount of our spare time & effort to assist as & when we can 🙂
As always tags are earned back easy by guys who have had them. A few heads in here have had them removed and put back a couple of times.
It would be lovely to look into the future and see the work load taking your time up (quite rightly so over and above a website!) and then tell us so we can remove it and give it you back on your planned date of being not so busy with work again etc
But its also awesome that you get busy with work randomly. So we just need to remove the tag periodically, which makes sure people are aware of the changes and encourages newer guys to post a bit more perhaps. Which is the aim I guess.
It would be lovely to look into the future and see the work load taking your time up (quite rightly so over and above a website!) and then tell us so we can remove it and give it you back on your planned date of being not so busy with work again etc
But its also awesome that you get busy with work randomly. So we just need to remove the tag periodically, which makes sure people are aware of the changes and encourages newer guys to post a bit more perhaps. Which is the aim I guess.
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DHTiling
Basically you are being forced to post / advise regularly or you lose it , this is what I am on about that drives members away.
You can't force members to post. What a joke this is becoming.
You can't force members to post. What a joke this is becoming.
so whats the criteria for a green tag...? you have to post once a day..? once a week...a month...twice a year.... lol just cause you don't post as often you still have the knowledge that warrants the green tag....which is what I thought it was all about...
I thought you were giving me a break for just even 2 weeks?!?!?!! Dave?
You're not being forced into anything, and nothing has changed since you administrated the forum and managed the role of ensuring only the regular trusted guys had the tags. Could link you to several threads in the mods forum that you had started that discuss who's gaining it, and who's losing it.
The criteria has always been the same andy allen, basically you provide advice to the forum, and do it often, and you gain the tag for being trusted as a source of decent knowledge etc. And the tag shows you contribute to the forum often.
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DHTiling
I'm not having a go dan.
Yes the criteria was to keep the tag you have to post good advice and regular , my point is as the forum gets older and older , the advice posted by greens is on the forum for ever , so forgetting about what used to be done , it is about now/today etc , a new format if what ever.
The advice should be shown to be coming from a trusted source , is that not true ?
No need to think I am trying to wind you up , I just want members to stay here and not leave because they are busy and get the tag removed.
Or make it even key and lose all the tags and members can be on an even key. Then it is up to who reads it to trust if it is correct.
Yes the criteria was to keep the tag you have to post good advice and regular , my point is as the forum gets older and older , the advice posted by greens is on the forum for ever , so forgetting about what used to be done , it is about now/today etc , a new format if what ever.
The advice should be shown to be coming from a trusted source , is that not true ?
No need to think I am trying to wind you up , I just want members to stay here and not leave because they are busy and get the tag removed.
Or make it even key and lose all the tags and members can be on an even key. Then it is up to who reads it to trust if it is correct.
I think for joe public the tags are almost essential.
My point is the same as Andys. I don't think you should have it removed because of a little inactivity. It only really needs taking away if your advice becomes untrustworthy really.
Bit like riding a bike....................
My point is the same as Andys. I don't think you should have it removed because of a little inactivity. It only really needs taking away if your advice becomes untrustworthy really.
Bit like riding a bike....................
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Peter
Any more decision on this?
Yeah we'll give you a shout when we've sorted out what we're doing.
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DHTiling
A lot of us have worked hard to gain this status... it is a sad day when it is removed and we are yet to be told why ..?
so the green tags are going..?????
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Qwerty
A real shame if they do go. Can't see any point in binning them personally
nor me, would be nice to have some input in it, before it gets binned.......if it's getting binned, maybe jumping the gun abit..lol
Morning Andy.
I don't think the tags are being binned. It was mentioned that som TAs that are inactive will loose theres. But have the option of gaining them back when they come back. I think this is something that has always been done and has been brought up as a way to maybe increase forum activity.
I personally dont think its a good idea to remove something from a member that is essentially an achievement just because theyre perhaps too busy to input much at present.
I don't think the tags are being binned. It was mentioned that som TAs that are inactive will loose theres. But have the option of gaining them back when they come back. I think this is something that has always been done and has been brought up as a way to maybe increase forum activity.
I personally dont think its a good idea to remove something from a member that is essentially an achievement just because theyre perhaps too busy to input much at present.
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Aston
i certainly wont feel offended if i lose my green tag. i am hardly on the forum now. no agenda just things/people sometimes move on...but thanks the for the tag, it was really appreciated and i mean that ;0)
if i could suggest one thing to dan/admin about removing green tags it would be this...dont remove a tag from any of the time served pros on here because these guys are becoming rare! i'd rather have a few posts of 'real value and worth' from one of these lads compared to some of the 'copy & paste' regurgitated replies that you sometimes see..cherish these people and don't lose them!! they are the real reason people come here to begin with,,lose them and you lose the forum.
all the best
ed ;0)
if i could suggest one thing to dan/admin about removing green tags it would be this...dont remove a tag from any of the time served pros on here because these guys are becoming rare! i'd rather have a few posts of 'real value and worth' from one of these lads compared to some of the 'copy & paste' regurgitated replies that you sometimes see..cherish these people and don't lose them!! they are the real reason people come here to begin with,,lose them and you lose the forum.
all the best
ed ;0)
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Dougs Third Go
on vizsla forum that I moderate we don't have a tiered structure so to speak, (apart from staff), yes we have tags, but that's just awarded on post count than merit, but tbh it works quite well and although we only have maybe 6k members it's a breeze to moderate as everything is on view. Calum, who owns the site probably only logs on once a week, and myself and a lady called Mary do the day to day stuff. I know it's kind of a different scenario ie, dogs = hobby, tiling = income, but I think the less tiered structure takes away peoples apprehensions about posting against a more "ranked" member. Just a thought.
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