I hereby declare this type of sub floor to be unfit to receive tiling. I am also declaring war on the manufacturers and the installation company’s for this product. :smilewinkgrin:
That of corse is despite the hundreds of thousandsf square meters that have been tiled without issue.
Good luck with that mate. One of the strangest things I see is that in France alone there are around 6million square meters of gyvlon type screeds laid and around 85% of these are tiled in smaller domestic situations similar to most of the guys on here. They have almost zero failures. No one will claim there are no failures at all but there are so few that they are pretty insignificant. Germany is similar although n a smaller scale and holland have actually introduced legislation which favours these types of screeds. What is different about the UK. I think it is dinosaurs (or is that Deanosaurs) no offence intended ... Who refuse to move with the times. These screeds are not going away and will oly increase in the domestic market with the same veracity that they have done in the contract market. The companies who supply them oh supply a demand in the market. If you would like to try and stifle the demand you will be looking to taken not only some f the largest construction companies in the world but also the tens of thousands of small builders, screeders,plasterers, floor layers, self builders, plumbers, heating engineers, environmental lobbyists, health and safety lobbyists who are all moving slowly but inexorably towards a flowing screed preference. I also hear people say builders ony use it cosits cheaper or quicker. These are not always true and in the vast majority of cases cost and speed do not even enter the equation becoming incidental behind all the other considerations builders and contractors have to take account of.
Adhesives have become available much more widely in the last few years. You often say you are being treated as a guinea pig doing all the testing but actually mostof the testing has been done already. I hear often from tilers phrases like "i always use this manufacturer and have never had a prolem" or "This is the best adhesive and primer". Phrases which are bandied about without apparent regard for the nature of thesubstrate and the application in question. What we seem to be incapable of grasping in the uk is that the adhesive that you have always used may not always the best adhesive for these screeds. The best adhesives tend to be Portland cement free...yet we still maintain our adherence t the British Standards because these say cement is best...Just cos the British standards say it does not make it fact.