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Our shower has been dripping for about six months, since we changed the boiler to a combi. This has led to some dripping under the bath (I think a dodgy seal around the plug hole) and is generally causing problems. So on the weekend I put in some isolation valves and removed the shower - with a view to replacing it. No more shower = no more drip :) I'm now running a beast of a dehumidifier (see photo5) to dry up under the bath while I work out how to fit the new mixer shower I bought...

Meanwhile, the reason I'm here: I noticed some tiles were loose on the side wall. I've removed a bunch of loose tiles to expose a damp plastered wall. (see photo1) I'm guessing the wall got wet because the tiles grouting failed between the tiles. I think the reason for this is the lack of any gap between the tiles (crowding) so hardly any grout could be used (see photo4). The good news is that the dehumidifier is doing it's job, should be dry by morning (see photo2).

The whole bathroom will be re-done in about a year, so how do I fix this mess cheaply and easily? It doesn't need to look great, but does need to be waterproof.

Do I just scrape off what I can, prep the plaster in some way, then stick the tiles back on? Since I'm leaving some tiles with no gap, will it be okay for a year or so if I put the tiles back on with no gap and just grout as best as I can?

How do I prep the wall? What adhesive do I use? I've never tiled before but I figure this is a good time to learn as it's only got to be "good enough" not perfect. I don't really want to spend loads for what will be little more than a temporary fix.

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Any and all feedback would be gratefully received!

why wait a year or spend of a temporary fix..if you can't afford it now..borrow the money..the amount you spend on a temp fix with out way the interest on the payments won't it ?..rates are so low now..apart from that it may get worse not better!
 
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ian158

Why dont you over board with hardie backer and re tile the wall.

Overboard on wet rotten plasterboard...there £4.50 a sheet in wickes if you buy 5 or more...come on just to do it right..your 1/2 way there anyway..just carry on..you can get showered down the local swimming baths while your doing it ?
 
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Oh yep Ian. Go and get a loan!? Possibly the most ridiculous post I've read on this forum to date. Including Mr T's posts.

oh you can be so negative at times...it doesn't make economic sense to spend money on a dehumidifier...panels etc... or a temp fix for a year..either way having your bathroom done is inconvenient wether its now or next year..they're half way there...crack on..and over boarding wet sodden plasterboard is hardly good advice either..its lost its strength....the plaster skim will have had it to..admittdley screw and fix hardi for quickness but just seems mad not to do it right and now.
 

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In your own words the interest on the loan you're suggesting would be the same cost as a temporary fix.

I weigh up the cost of plastic panels to be around £150. He already has a big de-hum there, and the walls are damp not rotten.
But interestingly how much of a loan do you think he will need to do all the work in a new bathroom? Don't think the interest on that figure would compare if im honest.

The key thing the user posted was he wants to save to do the job properly in about a year, but wants to get the area useable. Properly. . . . .in a year. . . . . .

Plastic panels will easily last until then and its an install a diy'er can comfortably do themselves.

I don't think encouraging loans is a good idea. Also not giving a viable and temporary option could lead to the user calling in bob the builder and being back on this forum in a couple of months. What do you say to him then? Should of got a pro in? They can't before it yet and want a proper job in the future when they can.
 
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From my understanding it will be a DIY job in a year..and we all have loans mate...it's called a mortgage !...money in interest we will never reap the benefits of..what makes you think he will call in bob the knob...he's already made his first good start by coming on here..and hopefully going for a tiler or one of the very good all rounders...like bubble craft
 
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Guys, both points of view are valid!

If we knew exactly what we wanted we'd be ripping the whole bathroom out now and starting over. Problem is we've got other issues (like the kitchen and the freeholder) that mean the bathroom isn't the priority right now. Short of making it dry and safe.

The PVC panels are exactly the type of fix I asked for originally - cheap, easy and waterproof and that's probably what I should do. Just wondering what the alternatives are as I really didn't like the look of the UPVC.

For what it's worth - the plasterboard wall is in good condition and even the rendered wall is in okay condition (barring a few spots). When I get time this weekend I'll try taking off the adhesive and take some pictures to see if you guys think it's actually okay to tile onto.

The main reason I'm now thinking tile is that I've never tried it before and it seems a great time to learn.

Thanks again guys, I mean it. It's great to have found such a passionate group of people willing to share their opinions on a subject!
 

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