I'm falling to pieces

[Fred]

As some of you know, I used to be a copper in London.

My eldest son had a problem with another local lad a few months ago. They worked at the same place, albeit, seperate units.

Well, the company had an evening out on a boat on the Thames. This other lad made a apin of himself all night, going around bullying other lads, etc.

Towards the end of the night this lad hit my lads best mate, so my lad being him got involved and ended it. Then the fun began. Death threats on face book, 'some one is dying'.etc, never mentioning my lads name.

Then this las followed home my lads friends demanding to know where we lived. This went on for a few days.

My lad went to the pub, had 2 pints, left with his two mates to another pub half a mile away, but took his pint glass with him. They went past the other lads home.

My lad saw the other boy, crossed the road and asked why he was saying things/following people home etc, but this lad grabbed a hold of my boy in front of his two mates and was going mad.

You got it, my lad put the glass across this lads face. It broke and there is a few scratches on his face, no stitches etc, in fact more damage from the other lad scratching my lads neck.

My son was nicked. The old bill treated myself like a star, having found out I did 15 years in the Met. My son was later bailed to re-attend the local nick.

He's been charged with wounding with intent and GBH without intent. Court this tuesday, first appearance.

I've been out of the police 7 years now, so I'm out of touch with what lads get.

Have any of you got friends etc, who have a similar story with what happened?

My police mats have all gone silent on me and no longer call........sware sware

I'm in a complete mess, unable for funtion.

 

[White Room]

I don't know but what I would do is go and have chat with the your local doctor, I was under sever stress with a divorce and bankruptcy and was given some "tablets", from a draw. Just to see if he can help under the current situation

Best of luck Fred

 

[faithhealer]

i know I would feel the same Fred if it was my lad. Was on a jury last year, similar sort of story, came to nothing because a witness failed to show, but previous character counts for a lot. needs a good line for carrying a glass though! best of luck for tuesday

 

[CJ]

Stay calm Fred............You need to stay in one piece for your son and the rest of your family.

Good luck

 

[diamondtiling]

stay calm, he was carrying a glass, ok I will be the one that everyone says, " that diamond tiling has got a big gob", Fred lets face it, if you carry a knife you are asking for trouble, whats the difference? your boy as good as he may be had a glass, he might have had no intention of doing anything with it, thats tough, the court will look at that bad, too many kids get away with being out of control, your boy may be a good boy but forget that in the eyes of the law, If he goes to Jail then thats it there is nothing you can do about it except be there for him when he comes out. There are too many people in this world who think they know everything and dictate to others their point of view but they are mis-guided, I sincerely hope that everything turns out good for you and your family. I have been there Fred, Prison is not nice, it is hard because it is boring and you miss your family, you lose a lot of things that you thought were important but are in fact nothing. Many so called hard men fall to bits on the other side of the wall. PM me Fred and I will help you as much as I can, I run a training programme in 3 prisons, I know you do not want to hear my words but I would rather speak the truth.

 

[Rob Z]

Hi Fred, do you have an attorney to represent your son?

 

[Fred]

Hi Fred, do you have an attorney to represent your son?

Saw him today. don't look good. But as the other lad didn't need stitches he reckons he'll get a lesser sentance.

 

[Rob Z]

OK Fred, at least you have a professional to handle the part of this that you can't handle yourself (the courtroom stuff). Let's all hope for the best for your son.

 

[Deleted member 9966]

Fred

it's always the good people who seem to end up in trouble because of some other toe-rag and troublemaker. your son will tell the truth, will give the whole story and background to the situation, and any sensible magistrate will see that he was provoked.

keep your chin up Fred, and we're all here, thinking of you and your son

:grouphug:

 

[david campbell]

if it's your son's first offence and pleads guilty,the chances are he will have a hefty fine and/or community service,he would be best not standing trial because it won't look good that your boy was carrying a glass,i know we have all left the pub with our pints before but the courts will look at this as carrying a weapon and looking for trouble!

hope it all goes well

 

[DHTiling]

Hi simon...I personally think it unlikely he will get a prison sentence but also depends upon how the case is represented.

You will know the role, but witnesses of past run in's and the facebook comments might help...are the comments still there or have they been removed..?

And as already mentioned, him carrying the glass was a no no..

But also as whitebeam mentioned....please do talk to the doctor if you feel the pressure is too much...

Good luck and our thoughts are with you and your family..

 

[Diamond Pool Finishers]

good luck fred i hope all goes well for your lad, you ,and the family, mate :cool2: :sunny::thumbs_up:

 

[poynton phil]

I'm sorry to hear your troubles, and i hope everything tunrns out ok foryou, one thing though if this lad posted death threats on face book he could also be in serious trouble as its a criminal offence to do so, also there was a girl who got sent down for it, a couple of weeks ago.

 

[Fred]

Went magistrates court today, sent to crown court because he's been charged with 2 offences and one of them can only be heard there.

Barrister is happy there are no stictches ( not the same man we saw yesterday, this is the main man) all witness statements show my lad walking away only and not the actual assault , plus the lad he did it to says he started on my lad by hitting him first and pushing him, also admits in his statement he had been after my lad for weeks.

Basically, the barrister reckons my lad has a good chance of not going to prison, but watch this space.

Please don't get me wrong, I've told my lad, and his mates time and time again not to walk off from the pubs with the glasses or bottles, I'm in fact extremely angry with him, not only for myself, wife and family, but for him.

 

[hillhead]

Good luck to yous fred.

 

[DHTiling]

Cheers for the update simon....keep us informed how it goes....could be a few weeks now, waiting for date to crown..

 

[doug boardley]

lets hope that the court sees it as "juvenile exuberance"

 

[Fred]

stay calm, he was carrying a glass, ok I will be the one that everyone says, " that diamond tiling has got a big gob", Fred lets face it, if you carry a knife you are asking for trouble, whats the difference? your boy as good as he may be had a glass, he might have had no intention of doing anything with it, thats tough, the court will look at that bad, too many kids get away with being out of control, your boy may be a good boy but forget that in the eyes of the law, If he goes to Jail then thats it there is nothing you can do about it except be there for him when he comes out. There are too many people in this world who think they know everything and dictate to others their point of view but they are mis-guided, I sincerely hope that everything turns out good for you and your family. I have been there Fred, Prison is not nice, it is hard because it is boring and you miss your family, you lose a lot of things that you thought were important but are in fact nothing. Many so called hard men fall to bits on the other side of the wall. PM me Fred and I will help you as much as I can, I run a training programme in 3 prisons, I know you do not want to hear my words but I would rather speak the truth.

Thanks Diamond for telling me the facts!
I know this is a hard time, but folks, its really helped me see the truth. We have a few pm's now, and its picking me up, thanks mate!

I know alot of you know I was old bill, but I came out seven years ago, and with the depression I suffer, I've forgot alot of the system.

I thank each and EVERY ONE of you, and I mean that, for your support.

My son is in trouble, I just wish he and my wife could see that.

 

[Fred]

Just to update all who remembered this post.

The pre & post photos of the lad my lad hit came in a few weeks ago. Thamk God he only had a few scratches on his face from the glass. He now has no scars, my wife and I are thankful for him that he is not scarred for life.

I met my son's solicitor a few weeks back with my lad and decussed the facts.

I did my Ex-Police officer bit etc............any way, the solicitor, seeing the photos of the other lad also agreed it was not GBH with intent nor without intent, and wrote to the crown prosecution service stating that etc...........

My lad got a letter today stating they were dropping the assault to ABH only............pow....am I relieved, my lass not going to prision.

He's also been accepted in the RAF on a 9 year apprenticip as an airframe fitter, providing he does not go under.

I do not like what he did, but he is still my son.

Thought some of you may like to know. I will tell you the out come of sentencing in a month or so. Fred.

 

[Colour Republic]

Glad the other lad isn't scarred and your boy can still follow his dream in the RAF

 

[White Room]

I just hope it works for him and yourself Fred, the raf will get him away from the aggro and maybe get on with life

 

[DHTiling]

thanks for update simon......

 

[CJ]

Good news Simon

 

[CJ CERAMICS]

hopefully he will not get any more than a slap on the wrist simon.
and will go on to have a successful career in the R A F.
chris

 

[CON5933]

Hopefully the fact that he's got the position with the RAF will sway the decision around to 'non custodial'...

 

[Fred]

Taking the family out for a meal tonight, Joe is in crown court tomorrow, so hopefully tomorrow night I can give you all an update to what happened, Simon.

 

[faithhealer]

Taking the family out for a meal tonight, Joe is in crown court tomorrow, so hopefully tomorrow night I can give you all an update to what happened, Simon.

good luck mate

 

[doug boardley]

cheers Simon, hope everything goes Joe's way

 

[DHTiling]

Wish your boy good luck simon...

 

[Fred]

The jugde was very fair. He wants reports on my son to see if he can do probation . He stated, it was still a serious offence as a glass was used. Joe now has to meet the probation board for a chat.

The next date is 21 Dec 2009, no X - Tree ar my home!

I'm scared and frightened.

 

[DHTiling]

Fingers crossed mate..