In your religion, what's Heaven and Hell meant to be?

[The D]

If I said I had fairies living in my garden, would you believe me on the grounds you can't disprove them?

if you had 66 books that were 1500 years in the writing ,and were written by 40 different authors all saying there are fairies in your garden i may start to think there my be fairies in your garden

 

[user123]

If I said I had fairies living in my garden, would you believe me on the grounds you can't disprove them?

I have never FELT fairies, but I've felt ...well, it's in my post on the last page, save me writing it again...

 

[The D]

Like this Ravi guy don't ya.

yes he is an intelligent man that makes a good argument.

 

[SandyFloor]

i think that is a bit of a sad out look on things but we will all find out in the end. im of to have a game of poker on fb see you tomorrow God Bless m8.

It's funny that. I have an American friend who can't comprehend me being athiest. He honestly believes I'm in some kind of denial. The question he has asked frequently is "how can you not believe in God?" I think athiests are in a minority in the southern states hence a difference in attitude.

 

[Dan]

if you had 66 books that were 1500 years in the writing ,and were written by 40 different authors all saying there are fairies in your garden i may start to think there my be fairies in your garden

Or the authors were lead to believe there were fairies. And were kept in nice conditions with wine cellars, vineyards and the likes all FOC?

 

[Time's Ran Out]

No. But I beleive in what CAN be proven, and everything that can't be should have equal treatment.

So santa, fairies, ghosts, spirits, gods, ufo's etc etc. If it's not proven it's hear say IMO. And why should we believe in things not proven. He'll, there's more evidence regarding reasons why religions were probably invented than there is evidence god exists.

Isn't there?

What do you mean - SANTA - not proven!
There's been more films about his life and none have had Charlton Heston in.

 

[Dan]

yes he is an intelligent man that makes a good argument.

Only really theoretically speak about god's existence though doesn't he? He doesn't really prove anything.

 

[The D]

Only really theoretically speak about god's existence though doesn't he? He doesn't really prove anything.

the proof of the pudding is in the eating m8.

 

[Aston]

dan,
dont get me wrong, i am not probing you, or arguing against your reasoning, its just i'm trying to figure out why your so keen to disprove there's not a god or heaven etc
what motivates you to question other people beliefs???
do you think they are misguided, lost, weak, etc for belieiving is something that they cant 100 perc prove?

or put it another way, if there was compounding evidence tomorrow that there is a god and an after life (whatever that format be) would you be happy? would you be actually relieved and over the moon, that theres another higher level?? because i know i would.

 

[Dan]

the proof of the pudding is in the eating m8.

What, so I'll see I'm wrong some time?

 

[The D]

What, so I'll see I'm wrong some time?

duno m8 you may not like my pudding

 

[Dan]

dan,
dont get me wrong, i am not probing you, or arguing against your reasoning, its just i'm trying to figure out why your so keen to disprove there's not a god or heaven etc
what motivates you to question other people beliefs???
do you think they are misguided, lost, weak, etc for belieiving is something that they cant 100 perc prove?

or put it another way, if there was compounding evidence tomorrow that there is a god and an after life (whatever that format be) would you be happy? would you be actually relieved and over the moon, that theres another higher level?? because i know i would.

Eeerm, not too sure mate. I just see so many people with so many strong beliefs and it's nearly always because their parents followed that faith. If I was born in India, Palistein (spelling), Egypt or somewhere with some other religion, I'd probably have parents of that religion, and I'd probably end up believing that.

I keep reading 'open your mind a bit' but really, I'm willing to be 'converted' if it is all true and proven. But until then, maybe believers need to open their mind as there's just a lot more proof, science and testing around it all and it's just proven to be totally unproven.

I think it's in me to just talk about stuff mate. It's probably why I made the forums. And I feel talking with loads of different types of people really gives me a nice outlook on life. And when I see something written that I can respond to, I will. And I love that you guys are still responding to me when some are taking a step back. So thanks for that.

If there was evidence tomorrow that there is god and an after-life. I'd be the first to setup a forum just about the topic. And I'd be converted. And perhaps it would answer some mysteries about the universe that I'm keen to keep reading up on.

But until that day, our little blue planet, in my eyes, wasn't created by a god.

I think people who beleive shut the doors to the knowledge that the earth is sooo so much older than the theory of god. And loads has lived here before 'mankind'. We're just borrowing it for a bit and because we didn't have a society pecking order, we made one. These days, it's Law and Government. But back when the bible was made it was religion that defined who you were and what made you do good things for the sake of life and not just yourself.

I love talking about it. So I question it mate. That's all.

The thread was meant to be about hell and heaven not religion in general and whether it exists, and yes it's me that lead it well off topic. Sorry for that. But hey, it's just a post I made and we have nearly half a million of them! (very close to that nice milestone there!)

 

[Dan]

duno m8 you may not like my pudding

Your metaphor has lost me fella.

 

[The D]

i do not know if you will ever see that you are wrong is what i was trying to say.

 

[Dan]

Nah, I see I'm right now mate. Until anything is proven, it's hear-say, surely? It has to be a choice you make to believe, and not a given. So like the UFO believers (and although I think there could be other existence, I just think if they had found us we'd probably be their planet now they'd be that advanced they're probably want to take over us - imagine an american government that could travel to another planet!?!) if you choose to believe it, fair enough, but to prove it's true and fact you need solid evidence.

That's not my view, that is a given.