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they are good but the trousers are rubbish.Snickers floorlayers. Beaded polystyrene. Light as feathers, don't sweat, dead comfy and wash in the machine to come back like new.
You don't necessarily need the floor layers pants, just decent sized knee pockets.
There's nothing better in my experience.
I find with these in trouser knee pads the I go though the outer knee material in months So stick to proper outer knee pads