Knock Knock...

[bugs183]

Absolute tosh.
I'd like to see him prove it.

 

[Tony73]

so about 50 p. per sq.m for laying ditra :incazzato:. I charge £3 per sq.m main contractors, and £5 per sq.m new/one time clients. (laying only)

 

[Spud]

I have been supplying and fitting Ditra at £15.95m2 for the last 4 years and never had one complaint about that price from a contractor and I know other subcontractors that charge £20 supply and fit,Dave, ceramic tiles ltd from Ipswich are selling Ditra at £160 plus vat at the moment not sure if the ctd is vat included if it is its the best price I have heard for a while

 

[The D]

No it is plus VAT at CTD

 

[Spud]

anyone notice the spelling mistake on the rolls of Ditra its called shlueter ditra 250 now days, I think that the production of the matting has been moved from Germany as no German company would mispell this, if so I would have liked to have been informed ,

 

[Rizzle from the Portizzle]

Here you go according to the main contractor the 'MARKET RATE' is £8.00m2 supply and fix! and using Ardex AF20 and he wants to take the 2.5% discount of that rate.

I jumped out of my chair, when he said he would show me the invoice he had of another job for their ditra.

Just got to carry on fighting the cause.

Lynn

once you are paid for work that should be a legal accepence of price .what small print are they trying to get you on? .dont forgett to invoice the time you spent in the meeting asp.as this as now become an exstra and the cost of your solisitor for sending it and exspalening your case .when contractor try this go straight for the throat and take no prisoner .its the only way

 

[Dan]

Surely if they had an issue with your initial quote then they should have picked up on that to A) find somebody else at "market rate" or B) to accept it and PAY IT when completed.

Does my bonce in. Late payments screw up the whole chain of suppliers. And I bet you one thing, they've not lost on that job at all. Whatever you charge they'll charge more for to the end user else they're not liquid and wouldn't trade.

 

[Perry]

Lyn you know what they are like we need to save a little more lets practice legal fraud again on the little guy or lady in your case see how much they will give us how many time have we seen the small guy on the end get blamed and ripped off for there mistakes

 

[turnip]

trouble is, this how it is, i have the same problem at the moment, they will bend you over and you got to accept it, but how much they bend you over is up to you? anyway, £20/m2 s+f it is now from me!

 

[Pebbs]

I think I have had enough of this b------t from clients, Ive been stewing over it since Friday, some wise tiler said to me a few years back that on some contracts you may as well hand these main contractors a bag of money, and walk away from some jobs because that's what the surveyor will want at the end of the job. He was right, I like to believe I'm a reasonable human being, and treat everyone with respect. Reasonable these days means someone will try and take the ----, out of you if you let them. I spent most of the day going through a long project file, checking dates, emails, verbal instructions, extras, npo's, and all the crap that you deal with. Ive had enough Im going for adjudication, if we lose it will still be less than what these deductions amount to. Thanks for all the advice, the ditra matting was one part of the knocking they want to take, there's a whole load more on top they want...like all the tanking they want for free, the list is endless.

Lynn

 

[Rizzle from the Portizzle]

okay you are angry lett it go. you wont win this way. now you need to take stock .dont play the game that they are prepared for .now you need to take the job a part day by day each part that they are disagreeing with has a value .add them toghter in lump sums of £5000 and make a claim in the small claims court. for every amount £5000 our below you can make as many as you are owed . where your claim will be juged on the probabilty.i will tell you now they wont turn up .i have won every time and been paid

 

[Pebbs]

I like your idea Ray, going to discuss it with me lads tomorrow. I sent a detailed email through to them today, for their response. Cheeky pieces of work have just sent through two more jobs for pricing, think I'll decline.

Lynn

 

[Rizzle from the Portizzle]

I like your idea Ray, going to discuss it with me lads tomorrow. I sent a detailed email through to them today, for their response. Cheeky pieces of work have just sent through two more jobs for pricing, think I'll decline.

Lynn

yes reminds me of the time a contracts manager rang me up saying you dont seem to have priced this job up its one you spaclise in. i said have you asked your bank manger to price it. he said now why would i ask him .well if you exspect me to do your banking .i thought he might be doing the tiling:smilewinkgrin:

 

[Ajax123]

Here you go according to the main contractor the 'MARKET RATE' is £8.00m2 supply and fix! and using Ardex AF20 and he wants to take the 2.5% discount of that rate.

I jumped out of my chair, when he said he would show me the invoice he had of another job for their ditra.

Just got to carry on fighting the cause.

Lynn

If you quoted a rate and your quote was accepted that forms a contract. Market rate has B all to do with it. If you are pricing as an extra which might be an addition t the original contract then it might be a little more applicable but extras is where a lot of contractors make their money so even this is not really that relevant. You stick to your guns.

On a similar note though I have seen lots of main contractors screwing subbies in a bid to get the prices for the jobs down. That is a symptom of this blooming awful construction depression. Latest figures show the market down some 10% last quarter. They are probably trying it on.

As you rightly say if they have lost money that is not your fault. Why should you lose money as well.

 

[Dan]

I like the small claims court idea. Split the lot up into 5k chunks and file loads of small claims.

Didn't know it worked for business-to-business issues as well as general public.