Large Kitchen with Electric UFH - 2 Quotes - Advice Please?

[jonnyc]

I always estimate that to cover heat mats properly to approx 5-6mm you will require 1 x 20 kg bag self levelling with fibres to cover 2.50 sq mts.
ie 40 sq mts needs 16 bags but that includes covering areas under units where mat is not fixed so yo end up with even flat floor.

if your fixer has had problems with mats floating up in past he has only himself or the mats he uses to blame.
even with good sticky mats of good quality we still use tape over loose wires and spray glue.
the key is to never leave self adhesive mats overnight before covering and especially if moisture in the air..
they tend to curl up
fixing a cement backed insulation board over 40 sq mts is a man days work and if fixing mats next day , best to prime the boards on first day and let dry out over night.
i know good tilers who cover the heat mat cables or just cable with flex adhesive the day before tile fixing and nothing wrong with that. horses for courses

 

[Houston]

personally I prefer mat than cable. I'm on a job at the moment were we have had to remove about 25m2 Karndean flooring with UfH and insulation boards back to substrate because client wasn't happy with levels etc.. using tilemaster level flex for the first time thought I would give it a go, thanks to DH Tiling for highly recommending their products. Some pics to follow

 

[jonnyc]

personally I prefer mat than cable,

me too. which make do you use ?

 

[jonnyc]

i forgot to ask.
what thickness of insulation board and what type are the tilers prposing to use. the thickness of insulation certainly makes a difference.

 

[kitchentiles]

i forgot to ask.
what thickness of insulation board and what type are the tilers prposing to use. the thickness of insulation certainly makes a difference.

10mm Warmup Boards

 

[Houston]

me too. which make do you use ?

warmup is what i have used most, regarding the Karndean flooring were going to be using prowarm matting, heating element is 2/3mm thick

 

[Lee@emctiles]

Ditto!!
Single cable system better than mat anyway, more versatile and no sticky up mats haha

Really?? Your using the wrong mats.
Find a matt that sticks to any subfloor (its sticky) and you will have no problems whatsoever.
Not a fan of loose cable.

back on topic, quote 2 all the way.

 

[Old Mod]

Really?? Your using the wrong mats.
Find a matt that sticks to any subfloor (its sticky) and you will have no problems whatsoever.
Not a fan of loose cable.

No, I make u right Lee!
Is that a name of a mat in your post? Sorry I'm not quite sure.

But Thing is, it's very rare I either get to supply/advise on a particular mat, let alone fit it!
But i do prefer single cable because it is a bit more versatile and has a lower profile generally.

 

[AliGage]

I much prefer loose wire. Quicker to install and more versatile for awkward layouts.

 

[Gazzer]

Both have their uses. I think the mat version has more issues for some as the matting itself tends to float if not installed correctly. The mats can be a pain in smaller areas.
Wires take a little longer but are more versatile but not really recommended for large areas.....again its down to what the installer prefers