now that i think of it i remember one job i was laying 500 x 500 ceramic yes large formats get imported into nz from asia and sell supercheap quality not that good but people still buy them, these particular ones were $12nzd pm2 anyway i managed to ping off with my nippers a full length an 8mm sliver offcut. i would like to here about anything that can beat that (only out of interest) and how they managed it and what cutter they used.might add to the debate with sigma v rubi.what do you think guys any takers.lets see what you can do:8: