Looking to employ a tiler

[cr0ft]

Hi all. I have tried to research this on Job Centre website but all the vacancies I can find near me have no salary/hourly rate on them. Not sure what the point is in an advert like that but hey..

I am looking to find someone who is a tiler and who can also do basic joinery in bathrooms/plasterboarding etc. But their main trade will be a tiler.

I am looking to employ someone full-time due to fairly rapid growth of our business last year and this year so far.

I have no idea what the going rate would be for a tiler in the East Midlands. I was thinking around £10 per hour for a full-time employed position?

Anyone else (particularly employers on this forum) care to share what they pay or think I should be paying? Cheers,

Keiran.

 

[Stef]

How much???
For a tiler???

 

[cr0ft]

£10/ph = £20,800 per year based on our 40 hour week. Are we saying that an employed tiler is worth more than that? That is why I am posting on here, I don't really know what the going rate to employ a tiler is. I am aware of what they charge when running their own business but obviously the employed hourly rate would be much less.

 

[Stef]

I just realised that this is in the arms.
I wouldn't get out my bed for £10ph to be honest, I charge £20ph for a fall back rate when I'm not on a price.
Yes it seems expensive but when you look round & see the rubbish that the cowboys are putting out then my price doesn't look so bad.

 

[cr0ft]

It sounds to me like you run your own business. If that is the case we are comparing apples and pears. I am on about someone who would be working full time for us, no quoting, an 8 hour day, all tools/van/uniform provides, i.e. employed by us and on our books.

Do you get £20/ph through your own business or is that employed full time for someone?

 

[Gazzer]

Yes thats the going rate around here too. I guess it depends if its 5 days a week and no transport etc. I cant see anyone breaking their neck for someone at that rate though.

 

[Stef]

I run my own business but I subby to a company also,
Bespoke homes.
I don't have a lot of overheads so could work for £10ph but I won't as I'm worth more than that..

 

[cr0ft]

Just to be clear, I'm not looking to subcontract someone in that runs their own business, I am looking to employ someone full time.

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I run my own business but I subby to a company also,
Bespoke homes.
I don't have a lot of overheads so could work for £10ph but I won't as I'm worth more than that..

I agree totally. No one running their own business should be charging out @ £10 ph but someone who is employed has no overheads at all other than fuel to get to work.

I'm on about what wage is a fair wage to pay a tiler who is employed.

 

[Stef]

£10ph for 40hrs = £400 minus tax at 20% = £320 take home for a tiler???
No Chance!!

 

[White Room]

I've seen from £10 to £15 an hour working direct but they were big companys.

 

[Ian]

I think £12.50 per hour will be what you'll have to go to to even get anywhere near a decent tiler, essentially £100 per day, no decent tradesman is worth less than that, even on the books.

 

[Stef]

When I say I subby for a company, this is a labour only price.

 

[cr0ft]

Thanks Bri. I think £12.50/hour would be managable but any more than that and I am struggling to justify employing someone to be honest, especially when the employer needs to add on 30% on costs. That works out at £130 a day employment cost to me really. If I am charging out at £200 a day plus VAT that employee is actually earning the business money which is what they need to do of course. I think if the wage + costs goes much over £130 it quickly becomes an unattractive option as the employee won't be bringing in enough profit to make finding 48 or so weeks a year of work for them worth it.

 

[area tiling]

A good tiler , with a good reputation on a hourly rate working for you deserves at least £15 , if it works out for you he'll be able to attract work to you also !

 

[cr0ft]

Do you employ tilers at that hourly rate? If so, how much do you charge them out at a day? I am a bit nervous with the idea of going over £200 plus VAT a day tbh as I think customers would baulk at it.